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RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?

To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
From: "Jayson Baker" <jbaker@peakinet.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:31:25 -0700
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
That may have been a reason.
Throttle at the ISP Base.

Regards,
Jayson A. Baker
Peak Internet Solutions

-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:27 AM
To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?

Also both interfaces were used


> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:24 AM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> 
> > For the Ethernet, or the wireless interface?  Was it
> > Turbocell, or were you trying to do it with 802.11?
> 
> Regards,
> Jayson A. Baker
> Peak Internet Solutions
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:21 AM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> 
> Yes I am using the interface fields
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:18 AM
> > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> >
> > When you say throttling at the CPE, are you setting it in the
> Interface
> > Setup fields?  For the Ethernet, or the wireless interface?  Was it
> > Turbocell, or were you trying to do it with 802.11?
> >
> > We do all throttling on a per-MAC basis at our ISP Base (AP-1000).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jayson A. Baker
> > Peak Internet Solutions
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 9:16 AM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> >
> > I tried throttling on the CPE (rg-1000 w/ SR-4100) and it was a HUGE
> > failure.  This was in the early 4.x code (probably 4.02 or
something).
> > There was ZERO granularity in speeds, it was full speed or next to
> > nothing.
> > I couldn't get a consistent 384/512/768 working at all.
> >
> > Mikrotik works wonders.
> >
> > -bob
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Conn" <cconn@abacom.com>
> > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> >
> >
> > > Dan Metcalf wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually - this isn't true - when you throttle at the CPE using
> > karlnet
> > > > it DROPS the packets, thus causing retransmissions.
> > > >
> > > > Most packages that throttle using windowing and can slow down
the
> > > > transfer with out dropping packets
> > > >
> > > > What I should have stated is that you should throttle at both
the
> CPE
> > > > and the NOC -----
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have asked precisely this to Karlnet and they sustain the
polling
> > algorithm
> > > is used to limit throughput and that no packet dropping (or
> retransmits)
> > occur.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I would propose that a "official" answer be queried
from
> > Karlnet?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > >
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > >
> > > >>On Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:42 AM
> > > >>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > >>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> > > >>
> > > >>Says who?  What a waste.
> > > >>Karlnet throttles at the CPE - saves a lot of wasted air time.
> > > >>
> > > >>Regards,
> > > >>Jayson A. Baker
> > > >>Peak Internet Solutions
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > >
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > >
> > > >>On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:23 AM
> > > >>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > >>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> > > >>
> > > >>Its better to throttle at your NOC not your AP or CPE
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > >>
> > > >>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > >>
> > > >>>On Behalf Of Jayson Baker
> > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:21 AM
> > > >>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > >>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>First of all, you cannot set different up/down rates.  There is
> one
> > > >>
> > > >>rate,
> > > >>
> > > >>>and this is what it is.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>The RADIUS info is on their website somewhere - but their
> examples
> > > >>
> > > >>don't
> > > >>
> > > >>>work.  When asking their support team for support, they offer
up
> > > >>
> > > >>generic
> > > >>
> > > >>>responses and never really help you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>We've been trying to get it to work for months (with the help
of
> > > >
> > > > some
> > > >
> > > >>>people
> > > >>>who have been using RADIUS for 10 years) and never been able to
> make
> > > >>
> > > >>the
> > > >>
> > > >>>throttling work.  The authentication works, but not the
> throttling.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Regards,
> > > >>>Jayson A. Baker
> > > >>>Peak Internet Solutions
> > > >>>
> > > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > >>
> > > >>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > >>
> > > >>>On Behalf Of Bruno Lopes F. Cabral
> > > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:08 AM
> > > >>>To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > >>>Subject: [Karlnet] Karlnet RADIUS dictionary entries?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Hello there
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I've heard one could use RADIUS to turn on the shaping
> > > >>>feature of TC (i.e. a client having only 128Kbps download
> > > >>>and 64Kbps upload)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>can any of you point me on instructions about this matter?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>from where can I download the dictionary entries for karlnet?
> > > >>>any usage examples?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>TIA, MBR,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>!3runo
> > > >>>from Brazil
> > > >>>_______________________________________________
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> > > >>>http://lists.wispnotes.com/mailman/listinfo/karlnet
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