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[RFI] Touch Light Update #3

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Subject: [RFI] Touch Light Update #3
From: Jon Ogden <jon.ogden@cain-forlaw.com> (Jon Ogden)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:06:31 -0500
I made a mistake here.  The inductance is proportional to the square of the
turns.

Amidon uses the following formula:

Turns = 1000 * Sqrt(desired L (mH)/Al) 

Where Al = the inductance value at 1000 turns specified by Amidon

So in my case I have 10 turns.  Al = 2160

So the correct amount of inductance is .216 mH or 216 uH.

73,

Jon
NA9D
-------------------------------------
Jon Ogden
Sales Engineer
Cain-Forlaw Company
847-202-9898 (Voice)
847-202-9896 (Fax)
jon.ogden@cain-forlaw.com 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Ogden [mailto:jon.ogden@cain-forlaw.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: 'EDWARDS, EDDIE J'; Jon Ogden; 'RFI'
> Subject: RE: [RFI] Touch Light Update #3
> 
> 
> 
> According to the Amidon literature I have in front of me, the 
> FT-50B-77 has
> a value of 2160 mH per 1000 turns.  So that would mean that 
> 10 turns is
> 21.60 mH.  So that's way to big.  However, it still didn't 
> stop the 20M RF
> from messing with things.
> 
> You'd think it would since it's a rather large impedance at 
> 14 MHz, but it
> didn't.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jon
> NA9D
> 
> -------------------------------------
> Jon Ogden
> Sales Engineer
> Cain-Forlaw Company
> 847-202-9898 (Voice)
> 847-202-9896 (Fax)
> jon.ogden@cain-forlaw.com 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EDWARDS, EDDIE J [mailto:eedwards@oppd.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:18 AM
> > To: 'Jon Ogden'; 'RFI'
> > Subject: RE: [RFI] Touch Light Update #3
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Jon Ogden
> > > >         Have you tried a "micro" Henry choke on the sense line? 
> > > No I have not.  I had assumed that the sense line wrapped 
> around the
> > > torroid
> > > would end up looking similar to using a choke in series 
> in the line.
> > > Perhaps I am mistaken.  Ten turns of the wire around an 
> > FT-50B-77 (half
> > > inch
> > > torroid using the 77 material) didn't do much to solve the 
> > problem.  Maybe
> > > it's not the same as a choke actually in series with the line.
> > > 
> >     I'm not sure how to calculate the inductance of the FT-50B-77.
> > Anyone know if it's the same as the FB-(77)-1024 listed in 
> > the ARRL RFI
> > book?  And if so, what are the "A-sub-L v Mix No." values 
> > listed in table
> > 2.2?  Seems to indicate nanoHenries.  So then FB-77-1024 is 
> > 5600 nanoH or
> > 5.6 microH?  For how many turns?  One?  So many questions!  
> > If it is one
> > then would've been 10 times 5.6 for 56 milliH.  That might 
> be too much
> > inductance and reactance for the sensing line.  But this is 
> > all a complete
> > guess without the answers to my questions.
> > 
> >     An actual inductance value for the FT-50B-77 would be helpful to
> > know for sure.
> > 
> >     73,
> >     de ed -K0iL
> > 
> 
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