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Re: [RFI] RFI from Astron power supply

To: Tom Rauch <w8ji@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI from Astron power supply
From: dgsvetan@rockwellcollins.com
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:45:15 -0500
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Tom,

I like your comment linking RFI and pain.  Most appropriate!

At my shack, all 3 of the conditions you state for your installation are 
also true for me.  However, my SS-35M has also gone to Field Day with me 
(as it will again this year) and then all bets are off as to those same 3 
conditions.  In particular, the last item, because the antennas are 
usually fairly close to the operating position.  Thus far, no RFI from the 
switcher, but I have had problems with ignition noise from the old Onan 4 
cylinder engine that spins the generator.  (No, the gen set is NOT club 
property, so we can't modify it.)

Although you are correct about the Astron switchers radiating, one thing 
that they do seem to be very good about is reduction of conducted RFI. All 
that ferrite in the output circuit does help.

73, Dale
WA9ENA





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> I presume that the Astron supply in question is the SS-35 
> or SS-35M. Those
> are switching power supplies, but are among the best I 
> have ever seen
> regarding RFI to HF or other radios.  I have been using an 
> SS-35M for more
> than 3 years now and think it is great.

RFI is like describing pain, every station has a different 
tolerance for RFI just like every person has a different 
tolerance for pain.

At my station  http://www.w8ji.com/station_ground.htm:

 1.) feedlines all have very solid connections on the 
shields and all enter through a bulkhead

2.) antennas are properly fed and decoupled for common mode 
currents

3.) antennas are a long distance from the shack


Because of this I can use a pretty ratty power supply and 
not have RFI.

The very same supply in my mobile where the antenna is only 
ten feet from the supply or at another person's house is 
absolute trash.

Most of the severe RFI problems I've seen come as much from 
shack wiring and poor antenna implementation as from the 
supply itself.

It takes two to tango. Not only must the supply radiate (and 
the Astron switchers certainly do that!); the antenna system 
or equipment must somehow be letting the noise in. The nice 
thing about looking at the antenna system and feedlines is 
any problems cured there make every work better. This is 
where we pay the price for dipoles without baluns or with 
poor baluns, poor cable shield connections and entrance 
grounding, verticals with no ground or a mediocre ground, 
and other similar things.

73 Tom





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