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Re: [RFI] RFI suppression cores for 147 MHz

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Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI suppression cores for 147 MHz
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:27:31 -0800
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On 3/1/2013 2:09 PM, Dale wrote:
1) It MUST have a full circumferential grounding contact to the chassis of the equipment into which 
the cable gets connected.  Except for direct hard wiring, this does not happen with the 
conventional RJ-45 jack, "shielded" or not; 2) The net path to chassis at each end MUST 
be low enough in impedance to effectively route the currents induced into the shield to the 
chassis.  The "rule of thumb" for effectively low Z is 1/8th to 1/20th wavelength at the 
highest frequency of interest, with shorter path length preferred.

Hi Dale,

A couple of thoughts. First, a circumferential connection is less critical if the length of the interruption of the shield and the interruption of the twist is VERY short, As I see it, it's a question of degree -- the shorter the opening as a fraction of a wavelength, the greater the shielding effectiveness. Second, if the shield wanders around the circuit board before it gets to the shielding enclosure, there's a Pin One Problem that will couple RF both ways to/from the shield to the equipment. Third, if there's an effective shield contact at one end but not the other, noise from the equipment with the good connection may be suppressed pretty well, whereas noise from the other end will not be. Fourth, I suspect that some (much?) of the VHF trash that escapes from UTP (ordinary CAT5/6/7) may be differential mode. One way to figure this out is to use a LOT of #43 cores on both ends and observe the resulting noise reduction. Those cores are killing common mode, not differential mode. I suspect that both are present.

SO -- IMO, having the shield go to the shielding enclosure by a very short path is generally far more critical than whether the connection is circumferential.

And this particular discussion is specifically addressing 100-200 MHz, which is where #43 is most effective. Above that, another material like Fair-Rite #61 and other materials from other companies are the weapon of choice.

For those new to the Pin One Problem, there are several tutorials on my website that address it in considerable detail. And in that context, it's important to realize that there are Pin One - Like Problems associated with ANY cable shield, and with the Green wire to the Mains Power outlet.

73, Jim K9YC
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