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Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.

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Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.
From: Tom Thompson <tlthompson@qwest.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:23:36 -0600
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It could be that the broadband noise is local and the STANAG signal at 4286.3 kHz is strong enough to poke through the broadband noise and they are not related at all.

Tom   W0IVJ

On 4/28/2014 1:19 PM, Dale J. wrote:
Or phase noise either in the receiver or transmitter.

Dale, k9vuj





On 28, Apr 2014, at 13:59, "k1fz" <k1fz@myfairpoint.net> wrote:

The wide width is most likely coming from receiver overload, or a noise blanker 
that somehow elecrically is still on.

73
Bruce-K1FZ
www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html


----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert via RFI" <rfi@contesting.com>
To: "Don Moman VE6JY" <ve6jy.1@gmail.com>; <Rfi@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.


Yep, heard in Portland on 4386 kHz about S3 less than 4 kHz wide!

Bob W7KD




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From: Don Moman VE6JY <ve6jy.1@gmail.com>
To: "Rfi@contesting.com" <Rfi@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [RFI] More on "my" noise.


As other have said STANAG is very common on HF. I have used SIGMIRA
software in the past to decode it.

I hear the signal on 4286 khz very loud here at almost any time, even now
(almost midday) it is strong so I'd suspect the signal would come from CFS
transmitters near Matsqui, BC. I do not know this for a fact so don't turn
it into one.
I do know that the signal observed here is less than 4 khz wide and if it
was truly as wide as you claim (over 3 mhz), that would be a serious issue
and would be widely reported by the many amateurs in the PNW.

Don
VE6JY



On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Charles Gallo <charlie@thegallos.com>wrote:

There are a lot of STANAGs. STANAG stands for Standards Agreement, and the
are NATO agreements on standards for just about everything

On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:19 PM, "Dale J." <dj2001x@comcast.net> wrote:

I've never heard of that term , STANAG before, you sure that's some > sort
of digital communication?
I looked around your area (satellite) and see no military complex for
miles around. I suppose it could be a remote transmitter, but I'd have to
ask why Moscow Idaho?
At that signal strength I would expect the interference to be very > close
to your location. Unless it is some sort of high power military remote
transmitter, then others would surely hear it too. Is it on 24/7 or just
certain times? Maybe you should log the times it's on then correlate with
times other commercial establishments are occupied. If you have a portable
receiver that tunes that freq, take it for a ride out of town, park and see
if you hear it.
Dale, k9vuj



On 28, Apr 2014, at 10:15, Kenneth G. Gordon >> <kgordon2006@frontier.com>
wrote:
 From one of our list members who has heard my smaller-sized >> recordings
of
this garbage, it is STANAG, which is the defacto standard military
digital
mode.

This is very seriously depressing me.

I cannot even imagine who in this area might be using that mode. We >> have
no military installations anywhere near this small town. The nearest
one, an
AFB, is in Spokane, WA nearly 100 miles north of us.

It is centered on 4286 KHz and literally wipes out EVERYTHING at >> least
1.5
MHz above and below that frequency.

It is 25db over S-9 on 4286 KHz, and still 15db over S-9 on the LOW >> end
of
80 meters.

I intend to DF its location this week, now that I can easily >> recognize
the
signal.

Kenneth G. Gordon W7EKB

"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway."--- John
Wayne
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