The glass part of the CFL gets very hot, too hot to touch and that's where the
heat is.
73
Dale, k9vuj
On 11, Aug 2014, at 14:25, "EDWARDS, EDDIE J" <eedwards@oppd.com> wrote:
> I have to admit my experience with CFL bulbs has been very limited until the
> last few years. So I might be and probably am missing something in this
> discussion.
>
> No one seems to be accounting for the heat generated by the ballast base of a
> CFL bulb where there is usually a small circuit housed inside. This may even
> vary for each manufacturer.
>
> 2 things I haven't pinned down yet:
> What is the normal amount of heat generated by the ballast of CFLs?
> Is ballast heat included on the CFL wattage rating?
>
> I have heard some CFLs have warnings they should not be used inside enclosed
> fixtures (open fixtures only), and others warn against using them mounted
> upside down. I assume this is due to ballast heat. But I could be wrong.
>
> 73, de ed -K0iL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Gallo
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 1:05 PM
> To: Peter Laws
> Cc: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Cree LED Light Bulb
>
>
> On 8/11/2014 Peter Laws wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>> That's interesting as in their on-line FAQ, Cree says they approve of
>>> installation in can fixtures. We've had 42 W CFLs in there for the last 8
>>> years and never seen evidence of overheating. However, the light is cycled
>>> a lot and I suspect the failures we've seen are related to that. Cree again
>>> states that power cycling is harmless to their LED bulb. I guess I'll get
>>> to find out!
>
>> Lumens, gentlemen, please! IMHO, bulbs should also receive a rating
>> based on how much heat they generate. Clearly, there is a difference
>> in the heat output of an Edison bulb that consumes 60 W of power and a
>> CFL that puts out the equivalent light (at considerably less power
>> consumption).
>
> Actually, we know this:
> The TYPICAL 60 Watt soft white edison bulb generates 800 lumens. Now,
> if there was 100% luminous efficiency, you get 683 lm/W, so you are
> getting 1.17 watts of actual light, and 58.83 watts of heat
>
> The cree bulb I have sitting here, which claims 75 watt equivalent and
> 800 lumens..(Interesting, eh) draws 14 watts
>
> Again, you're looking at 1.17 watts of light, and therefore 12.83
> watts as heat
>
> Pretty much, if you think about any lightbulb, assuming it isn't
> giving off massive RF, or sound, anything not out the front as light
> is going to be heat
>
> --
> 73 de KG2V - Charles Gallo
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