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Re: [RFI] RF getting into 4-port wireless router - progress

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Subject: Re: [RFI] RF getting into 4-port wireless router - progress
From: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:58:52 -0500 (EST)
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Hi Ken, 

Don't be fooled... Outlet testers can only reliably verify the wiring of 
the three wires connected each individual outlet, they cannot detect 
many other dangerous wiring errors commonly found in old houses or 
in houses wired by unqualified personnel. This is especially the case for 
nearly one hundred year old knob and tube wiring, which did not use 
ground wires and often uses bizarre neutral wiring configurations to 
save a few feet of wire. 

Perhaps the most common problem is with ground wires which ideally 
should carrying little or no current, but in the real world do carry leakage 
currents and ground currents induced by non-code compliant appliances. 
Ground wires can carry many amperes of current in an incorrectly wired 
house, a common problem in old houses with knob and tube wiring. 

The best way to avoid problems in a computer network is to use 
relatively inexpensive wifi connections. Modern wifi devices can span 
up to 300 foot distances, depending on the obstructions between the 
end points of each connection and the wifi technology used 

73 
Frank 
W3LPL 



----- Original Message -----

From: "dalej" <dj2001x@comcast.net> 
To: "Roger" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com> 
Cc: rfi@contesting.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:19:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [RFI] RF getting into 4-port wireless router - progress 

Roger, I read your post about hooking up a light bulb and it was interesting 
then I got to thinking that he's doing the same as my little green plug in 
gizmo I bought at HD. 

Dale, k9vuj 


On 15, Jan 2015, at 10:55, Roger (K8RI) <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com> wrote: 

On 1/15/2015 4:32 AM, dalej wrote: 
> You 

Shows how outdated my knowledge of testers is. <:-)) 

73Roger (K8RI) 

> 're making progress. Get one of those little testers for checking outlet 
> wiring. You might find some more strange things going on in your house. 
> 
> Dale, k9vuj 
> 
> 
> 
> On 14, Jan 2015, at 21:33, Kenneth G. Gordon <kgordon2006@frontier.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> OK, Gang, two things have changed since I removed and rolled up the 30+ 
> feet of #8 useless ground wire to the panel: 
> 
> 1) The lights in the shack no longer change brightness in time with the 
> keying of my rig and amp. It was very slight, despite the fact that I had 
> the amp on a dedicated 120 V line, but it was there. Now it is no longer 
> in evidence. Zero: zip: nada. 
> 
> 2) It appears that I am no longer getting into my 4 port wireless router. 
> 
> 3) There is no more "weirdness" with the basement GFCI. 
> 
> There MAY be an additional effect: 
> 
> 4) It is POSSIBLE that my overall noise level, which has been a constant 
> 10 dB over S-9 on 80 meters, is now only S-9. I find this last to be 
> particularly hard for me to believe, but it sure looks like it is a fact. 
> 
> Now, the larger question: if this is so...WHY is it so? I am more 
> mystified than I was to begin with... 
> 
> And, BTW, the ONLY thing I have done so far is deal with that useless 
> panel ground wire. 
> 
> I also suspect that what I had thought was the lights dimming in time 
> with my keying was exactly the opposite: they were getting brighter with 
> my keying. 
> 
> I am going to go buy another 4 ea 8' ground rods tomorrow... 
> 
> I now have just loads of #8 solid copper with which to tie them all 
> together. :-) 
> 
> Ken W7EKB 
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