Hi Joe,
You are 100% correct, and that is what bothers me about my approach, it
does leave the grower knowing who is involved...
However, if the grower is shut down, and angry, and really wants to know
who complained he can find out anyway... If anything goes to court, all
becomes public knowledge, and not all cities protect privacy.
The ARRL has come closest to being able to disconnect the ham from the
grower with their filing of complaints to the FCC, for the ham.
I find myself in that exact position today... Do I contact the grower,
and try and stop it, or do I just ask the FCC via the ARRL to stop it?
From what I hear of late, if the grower does not respond, nothing much
more happens via the FCC route, so if the FCC fails, I am done, and have
to live with the RFI. That is why I take the work with the grower view...
Shifting subjects...
You have however hit upon my primary beef with the FCC, the lack of
active enforcement is putting me, (and you when your RFI time comes),
in the position of having to choose between putting myself, (or
yourself), in a bit of danger, or loosing our hobby.
Had the FCC enforced things vigorously I don't think it would be as bad
as it is today. I realize that at some point I am going to meet a
grower that is seriously ticked off! That both worries me, and scares
me a bit.
Hell-- the ARRL handed the FCC an almost perfect case against Home
Depot, and as far as I know nothing was ever done by the FCC, no fines
levied, no investigation, nothing, not even a letter from the FCC. Thus
"Part 18" lights were, (and for all I know still are), being sold to the
general public for installation in residential areas...
I believe the FCC is directly responsible for putting each of us in this
position for their lack of active enforcement...
Levy a few hundred $10,000 fines against the sellers and importers of
these lights and less of them would be sold. The word would spread fast
that RFI generating lights a not a good idea. There are perfectly
acceptable RFI quiet lights available today. It just costs money.
This situation both irritates and angers me greatly... But... One works
with what one has available-- rolling the die and hoping to win just one
more time... I shut my eyes each time I do this-- and hand them the
paperwork hoping that I don't get shot. This will number five in three
years... It only takes one time to be wrong.
It is a sad position to put an Amateur Radio operator in, contacting a
known law breaker, while trying to ameliorate the illegal RFI caused by
an illegal grow operation for a legal and licensed hobby, which serves
the public. We all should be mad as hell at the FCC for this...
Oh by the way, the FCC is now talking about receivers accepting
interference...
73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net
On 02/22/2018 05:53 PM, Joe wrote:
I'd check with the city BEFORE contacting the grower.
Because if you contact him first and have no results, then go to the
city and the city shuts him down and he looses his income, guess who he
will possibly get even with?
Whereas if the city does it first he doesn't know anything about you.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 2/22/2018 5:09 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
Hi,
I'll check that out, and thank you. I will keep that as a backup plan
in the event the person is non-cooperative.
I want to handle this in as friendly manor as possible, as opposed to
threats. But-- if the person stubborns up, that will change my
approach. I simply will not give up my hobby.
So far I have never had to request an FCC letter for a grower. The
problem here in Eugene has been the non growers!
One person sheet rocked in a power supply, (outlet and all), for one
of those cheap halogen under counter lights for the new Bar he built.
He then claimed he could not fix the problem because he could not get
to the wall wart. That got a request sent to the FCC for a letter by
me, and when the letter came to him, the problem got fixed. It was
giving me 40 over 9 RFI on 80, 40, and 30 Meters.
Fortunately the growers here are all pretty laid back here...
Hopefully this new one will be as well. I do however like to have my
ducks in a row first though, so thank you again for that tip.
73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net
On 02/22/2018 02:07 PM, Mike Kirkland wrote:
You can likely get the city to shut the whole thing down as
commercial grow operations are generally not permitted in residential
areas. Call your City's local zoning department.
On Feb 21, 2018 4:23 PM, "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net
<mailto:dave@nk7z.net>> wrote:
Thanks to all for the education on pot lighting! :)
I will be handing the grower the packet sometime this week...
Hopefully the grower will proceed in the spirit of the handout,
which is friendly, firm, but not demanding. If you are interested,
the full color handout in all it's beauty is located at:
http://valleyradioclub.org/rfi.html
<http://valleyradioclub.org/rfi.html>
at the bottom in the links section. The ARRL has a fillable form of
the same text at:
http://www.arrl.org/information-for-the-neighbors-of-hams
<http://www.arrl.org/information-for-the-neighbors-of-hams>
but it is not as pretty as mine! :)
I am developing a handout that can be given to all the pot shops in
the area, in hopes they will pass to their growers explaining what
RFI is and why they want it gone... I suspect once the growers
realize it takes about 10 minutes to locate them, they will want to
get on the band wagon for quietness...
I need to get it developed, then have a lawyer review it for
liability issues, then redo it until the lawyer is happy... Once
that is done, I will post it on line.
73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
https://www.nk7z.net
On 02/21/2018 04:10 PM, Bob Riese wrote:
shorter light time promotes budding
Bob
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Tom Thompson
<w0ivj@tomthompson.com <mailto:w0ivj@tomthompson.com>
<mailto:w0ivj@tomthompson.com <mailto:w0ivj@tomthompson.com>>>
wrote:
Dave,
From what have observed, the lights are on continually for
about
two weeks and then a 12 hours on / 12 hours off until
harvest which
can take a number of months. Depending on the setup, the
lights are
off for a week or so while a new crop is planted, and then
the cycle
repeats. To get the latest, just google cannabis grow
cycle. See:
https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/marijuana-plant-growth-stages
<https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/marijuana-plant-growth-stages>
<https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/marijuana-plant-growth-stages
<https://www.leafly.com/news/growing/marijuana-plant-growth-stages>>
73, Tom W0IVJ
On 2/21/2018 7:11 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
Hello,
Can someone refresh my memory here... I believe
there is a
cycle of light timing pot growers use on something like
a 12 or
13 weeks period where they go from 18 hours of light to
12 hours
of light... Does someone know what this cycle is,
and why?
I ask because my RFI has taken a turn for the worse, 12
weeks
after it started...
Yesterday, it changed from a 12:45 AM start time and a
6:45 PM
end time, to a 6:45 PM to 12:45 PM the next day end
time. This
followed a few days of no RFI. I suspect harvest time
is upon
the grower causing RFI, and I want to avoid handing
him his
"Welcome" packet during harvest as there will probably
be lots
of people there...
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