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Re: [RFI] Trying to locate the Part 15 compliance note...

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>, "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Trying to locate the Part 15 compliance note...
From: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 20:21:38 +0000
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Those regulations all apply to emissions from the device. In the US, with very 
few exceptions, there are no FCC rules regarding immunity.

This now-out-of-print-but-wisely-archived FCC document may help:

http://www.arrl.org/fcc-info-1

See the CIB Interference Handbook and look for the statement about non-radio 
devices improperly functioning as radio receivers.

Ed, W1RFI



-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of David Eckhardt
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:41 PM
To: Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net>
Cc: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Trying to locate the Part 15 compliance note...

There likely wo't be a statement.  Home appliances are specifically exempt from 
FCC rules of any kind.  15.103(d) will be difficult to force into this case 
where it arcs when an amateur transmits.


§ 15.103 Exempted devices.

The following devices are subject only to the general conditions of operation 
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in §§ 15.5 <https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/15.5> and 15.29 and are 
exempt from the specific technical standards and other requirements contained 
in this part. The operator of the exempted device shall be required to stop 
operating the device upon a finding by the Commission or its representative 
that the device is causing harmful interference 
<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=5d78fa6c752a5326f26a026c51cd5136&term_occur=2&term_src=Title:47:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:15:Subpart:B:15.103>.
Operation
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shall not resume until the condition causing the harmful interference 
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has been corrected. Although not mandatory, it is strongly recommended that the 
manufacturer of an exempted device endeavor to have the device meet the 
specific technical standards in this part.

(a) A digital device
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utilized exclusively in any transportation vehicle including motor vehicles and 
aircraft.

(b) A digital device
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used exclusively as an electronic control or power system utilized by a public 
utility or in an industrial plant. The term public utility includes equipment 
only to the extent that it is in a dedicated building or large room owned or 
leased by the utility and does not extend to equipment installed in a 
subscriber's facility.

(c) A digital device
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used exclusively as industrial, commercial, or medical test equipment 
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(d) A digital device
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utilized exclusively in an appliance, e.g., microwave oven, dishwasher, clothes 
dryer, air conditioner (central or window), etc.

(e) Specialized medical digital devices
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(generally used at the direction of or under the supervision of a licensed 
health care practitioner) whether used in a patient's home or a health care 
facility. Non-specialized medical devices, i.e., devices marketed through 
retail channels for use by the general public, are not exempted. This exemption 
also does not apply to digital devices 
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used for record keeping or any purpose not directly connected with medical 
treatment.

(f)Digital devices
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that have a power consumption not exceeding 6 nW.

(g) Joystick controllers or similar devices, such as a mouse, used with digital 
devices 
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but which contain only non-digital circuitry or a simple circuit to convert the 
signal to the format required (e.g., an integrated circuit for analog to 
digital conversion) are viewed as passive add-on devices, not themselves 
directly subject to the technical standards or the equipment authorization 
requirements.

(h)Digital devices
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in which both the highest frequency generated and the highest frequency used 
are less than 1.705 MHz and which do not operate from the AC power lines or 
contain provisions for operation 
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while connected to the AC power lines. Digital devices 
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that include, or make provision for the use of, battery eliminators, AC 
adaptors or battery chargers which permit operation 
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while charging or that connect to the AC power lines indirectly, obtaining 
their power through another device which is connected to the AC power lines, do 
not fall under this exemption.

(i) Responsible parties should note that equipment containing more than one 
device is not exempt from the technical standards in this part unless all of 
the devices in the equipment meet the criteria for exemption. If only one of 
the included devices qualifies for exemption, the remainder of the equipment 
must comply with any applicable regulations. If a device performs more than one 
function and all of those functions do not meet the criteria for exemption, the 
device does not qualify for inclusion under the exemptions.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 3:32 AM Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have an interesting RFI issue happening.  My neighbors oven is 
> acting up when I transmit.  It looks like the oven is taking RF in via 
> the power lines.  In our discussions, part 15 compliance came up.  I 
> have offered to have an electrician install some ferrite material on 
> the power lines, and pay for it, but they want to pursue with GE as 
> they indicated they may get a replacement stove...  Anyway...
>
> I have the model number for the stove, it is a GE Signature Cafe model 
> number C2S985SET9SS.
>
> After downloading the manual, the installation information, and the 
> users guide, I can not locate a Part 15 compliance note anywhere...  
> Can someone help my locate this?
>
> --
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
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