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Re: [RFI] Radar Engineers Model 251 Parabolic dimensions?

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Radar Engineers Model 251 Parabolic dimensions?
From: Dave Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Sat, 8 May 2021 06:20:18 -0700
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You might check out this dish...

https://www.midnightscience.com/ultra-kits.html



73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 5/8/21 1:08 AM, Charlie Delta via RFI wrote:
Hi
Can someone who owns a Radar Engineers model 250 or model 251 Ultrasonic RFI  
receiver kindly tell me the dimensions of the dish?
I am particularly interesting in the dish depth and the focal distance point. I 
understand that dish is 18 inches in diameter.
The plan is to get a suitable parabolic dish molded  by a local Dome skylight maker 
who thinks  that he can mold a suitably accurate true parabolic dish.
  I am curious to know if the Radar engineers dish falls within the 0.5 to 0.6 
F/D ratio? Since it works so well I thought I might as well start off with a set of 
dish dimensions that is proven to work around the 40khz Ultrasonic frequency.
Since the beam-width is so sharp , I presume that the dish dimensions and the 
illumination from the dish of the ultrasonic mic will be critical. I have already 
played around with the W1TRC detector and various odd ball dishes and the results 
have not been that great since these dishes  have a far from optimum F/D ratio.
 From playing around it seems that a deep dish with the focal point deep within the dish 
produces a very poor result and may even produce minor sidelobes that causes confusion. 
Depending on the  strength of the signal, an ultrasonic signal  can disappear 
because of the poor illumination of the microphone sensor.  So it does appear that an 
optimum f/d ratio dish would produce a better result.
Any input or comments would be welcome from anyone who has tried to build a 
similar project.
(pick your mould VS mold spelling)
73CraigVK3OD
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