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Re: [RFI] Solar panel RFI

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Solar panel RFI
From: "Dave (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:26:31 -0800
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Thanks Dave!!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 2/20/22 15:48, David Eckhardt wrote:
Nothing fancy.  I'll attach an image of the test fixture I use.  It is not appropriate for frequencies much above 54 MHz, but works fine for HF on downward.  In determining ferrite material, one does not need coverage above even 10 MHz.

Dave - WØ LEV

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:48 PM Dave (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net <mailto:dave@nk7z.net>> wrote:

    Jim,

    That is most interesting material, thank you!  Will you all be
    including
    a test fixture description as well?  I am in the process of gathering
    the materials to build a test fixture, and would like to see your
    designs...

    73, and thanks,
    Dave (NK7Z)
    https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
    ARRL Volunteer Examiner
    ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
    ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

    On 2/20/22 12:28, Jim Brown wrote:
     > On 2/20/2022 4:13 AM, Hare, Ed, W1RFI wrote:
     >> The toroids are not marked, so it will not be certain what material
     >> they are."
     >
     > Thanks. For the next Handbook, I've given Ward details of a
    method to
     > identify a few MnZn ferrite materials with an ohmmeter. It was first
     > suggested by W1HIS, and I fleshed it out a bit further. It's pretty
     > simple. It worked with the three VOMs in my lab -- a Simpson 260, a
     > Fluke 8060A, and a nice little no-name digital VOM that I bought for
     > about $15 at a northwest Indiana hamfest at least 20 years ago.
     >
     > With the meter on a high range scale, aggressively scratch the
    surface
     > of the ferrite with the probes so that they get through the
    coating, and
     > note the reading, if there is one. #31, #75, #77, and #78 are MnZn
     > mixes, and will show a reading in the range of 100K - 700K; #75,
    #77,
     > and #78 will be in the range of 1K - 10K. #43, #52, and #61 --
    are NiZn
     > materials, which have MUCH higher bulk resistivities, and will
    show no
     > conductivity at all. These resistivity values, as well as initial
     > permeabilty (mu at low frequency) are tabulated in early pages of
    the
     > Fair-Rite catalog.
     >
     > We're also including methods to zero in on the specific material
     > measuring inductance using traditional methods or studying the
    shape of
     > an impedance sweep with a well calibrated Vector Analyzer.
     >
     > These methods, of course, depend on knowing AL or ui values for the
     > various materials. Fair-Rite's published data is FAR more
    extensive than
     > any other manufacturers; others publish little more than
    marketing or
     > limited applications data. For example, Laird (used to be Steward)
     > publishes ui values for only two of about eight materials.
     >
     > 73, Jim K9YC
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