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Re: [RFI] SolarEdge HD Wave panel system RFI

To: KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net>, Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] SolarEdge HD Wave panel system RFI
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 20:01:26 +0000
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At this point, we aren't even sure that this is not a simple misunderstanding, 
so characterizing this as a scam is quite premature.  We will have the rest of 
the story when we hear back from our contact at Solar Edge.  Until then, 
speculation can really become harmful if it gets out of hand.  We know of over 
500 systems having been replaced in the field and this is the only report we 
have received about this sort of thing. A misunderstanding looks very likely.

Ed  Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab



-----Original Message-----
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> On Behalf Of KD7JYK DM09
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 3:32 PM
To: Rfi List <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] SolarEdge HD Wave panel system RFI

"Well I finally heard from Trinty Solar ( the installer) about the neighbors 
SolarEdge HD Wave panel system RFI correction. I have ask for RFI correction 
from the first day it was installed on 22 January  2022. 
SolarEdge will supply redesigned optimizers and ferites for the RFI correction 
at no charge. BUT Trinty Solar says there is a charge TO ME for the labor of 
$1060. 8 hours work at $125 an hour plus tax. Is this how poorly designed Solar 
panel systems get corrected? It's not my system and it's not my design error so 
why is the corrective cost my charge?"

Clearly a scam in the hope you are stupid enough to pay.

Send the invoice back with a copy of the CFR stating RFI must be resolved by 
the owner/operator, or operation must cease.  Write across it, "I am not the 
owner".  No more, no less, let them figure it out.

I once received a parking ticket for parking in front of a business, with a 
"for sale" sign on my car.  The citation was for something along the lines of 
selling vehicles on a public road, blocking parking for businesses, et cetera.  
Through social engineering, I learned the manager at the business I was parked 
in front of fussed, something about "preventing customers from parking at the 
business, 'cuz some guy is selling a car".  Yeah, on a public road...

I sent the citation back with a copy of the code, which stated, "For the 
primary purpose of selling...", with a note, "The primary purpose was engaging 
in business, the vehicle happens to be for sale".  No response from the city.  
I ignored the citation.  Nothing further happened.

A year or so later, I had a new/used sports car.  I went to the business where 
the previous vehicle was parked, and had them give me an estimate for new alloy 
wheels, Z-rated tires, alignment, high-end shocks, bushings, exhaust, the 
works.  A few kilo-bucks worth parts and labor. 
It was all written up, "sign here"...

Thanks.  I'll pass.  "Is there a problem?",  "May I speak to the manager 
please?"  The manager came out, a few service writers, and at least a half 
dozen customers were present.  I explained the issue with the citation, the 
fine of which was all of $10.  I handed the work invoice back to him, and 
explained that that's what it cost his business today, not counting all 
business from me for eternity, and everyone else I
tell- forever, then walked out.

Ignorance is not without consequence.

Your other option is to know you aren't responsible for someone else's work 
they are required to perform at their expense per regulation, ignore it, let it 
evolve into an annoyance (remember, YOU are the victim), then you have numerous 
legal options.  I'd start with adding three zeroes to their invoice, and 
sending it back to them as yours, for dealing with them.

Kurt



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