Hello Richard.. thankyou for your reply.. I agree with you 100 percent.
the rules are far too ambiguous and need cleaning up. My message was in no
way intended as a slur on any of the Canadian stations, it was meant to do
exactly whit it did, get feedback from those most affected and with a bit of
luck, get the rules fixed.
cheers
John - vk4cej
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Ferch" <ve3iay@rac.ca>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Cc: <vk4cej@hamsnet.net>; <edlyn@california.com>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:43 AM
Subject: [RTTY] Canadian multipliers in CQ WW RTTY
> John (vk4cej) wrote:
>
> > A question for you Eddie... regarding other 'faux pas'. SO far, not
one
> > single Canadian station that I have seen or worked has given out the
> correct
> > "area" exchange as per the rules. I have lots of "ON" and "BC" etc,
> > none of which are technically correct... Do I edit or nor edit ???
>
> Obviously I cannot tell you what will be acceptable to the rules
committee,
> but I can offer a suggestion as to why Canadian hams send their exchanges
> the way they do, and I can also make a suggestion that might make the
rules
> clearer in this respect in future.
>
> First, we all need to recognize that there are quite a few contests that
use
> "state or province" in the exchange (ARRL RTTY Roundup, ARRL DX, ARRL 10
> meter, NAQP, NA Sprint, state QSO parties, ...). So, in contests where US
> hams send their state, we Canadians are used to sending our province in
the
> corresponding part of the exchange. Old habits die hard.
>
> Second, sending the prefix as a separate part of the exchange doesn't seem
> very psychologically appealing. My call sign already contains my prefix,
why
> would I need to send it again? Do hams in California send "W6" as their
> state? No, they send "CA". Why should I be treated differently?
>
> The rules are also not 100% clear on this. The two paragraphs in Rule IX
are
> not consistent with each other. The first paragraph says: "One multiplier
> point for each US state (48) and each Canadian area (13) on each band." As
> an aside, there are actually 14 Canadian call sign areas now, but if you
> want to combine NT (VE8) and NU (VY0), that won't affect too many people
> (not too many contesters in either one!). Most of us can figure out what
is
> meant, just as US hams can tell what is meant by 48 instead of 50 states.
So
> far, so good; don't bother changing this sentence.
>
> However, the second paragraph of the same Rule reads: "Canadian areas are
> VO1, VO2, VE1 (NB, NS and PEI), VE2, VE3, VE4, VE5, VE6, VE7, VE8 (NWT),
and
> VY (Yukon.)". I only count 11 areas in this list! Oops, I guess they must
> mean NB (VE9), NS (VE1) and PEI (VY2) to be separate. Not only that, but
VY
> is not the same as Yukon; there are three VY call sign areas (VY1 = Yukon,
> VY2 = PEI, and VY0 = Nunavut). I know this looks weird geographically, but
> that's the way it is. Don't blame me - blame the Canadian licensing
> authorities!
>
> My suggestion for a revision to this sentence in the rules would be:
> "Canadian areas are NF (VO1), LB (VO2), NS (VE1/VA1), NB (VE9), PE (VY2),
QC
> (VE2/VA2), ON (VE3/VA3), MB (VE4/VA4), SK (VE5/VA5), AB (VE6/VA6), BC
> (VE7/VA7), NT (VE8, VY0), and YT (VY1)."
>
> As a final side note - the list of multipliers in the RTTY Roundup is
> almost, but not quite, the same as in the CQ/DJ WW RTTY. The Roundup uses
> provinces as multipliers, so VO1 and VO2 count as the same multiplier and
> VE8 and VY0 count as two separate multipliers in the Roundup. Vive la
> difference!
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3IAY
>
>
>
>
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