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Re: [RTTY] 200 hz filter on RTTY

To: allan1@dejazzd.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 200 hz filter on RTTY
From: "Charlesjr@afgimail.com" <Charlesjr@afgimail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:55:52 -0400
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Allan,
No question is ignorant. During contest I use it with Writelog. I think WL and 
one other software 
package is the only one's RITTY will work with. You loose some of the 
function(s) but not it's 
ability to copy weak signals when used with the logging software.
During the day I use it standalone on a WIN98 500mhz machine with several sound 
cards. The ct4520 
sound card works better than earlier model cards. I do some part time online 
work for a gentleman 
since retiring from the .mil world. That's why you see all the spots during the 
day from me as I 
work and play at the same time. MMTTY work's pretty good but not as good as 
RITTY on weak signal 
copy. Same with the ST8000 I have, not as good as RITTY. With that said I never 
could copy E4X when 
he was on 18100.0 the other day. The op was there for about 8 hours and never a 
peep here but I saw 
plenty of other W's working them and even one on the coast about 60 miles from 
me.
Hope that answered your question.
73
charles/kk5oq




------- Original Message -------
>From    : allan1@dejazzd.com[mailto:allan1@dejazzd.com]
Sent    : 6/1/2010 2:11:51 PM
To      : Charlesjr@afgimail.com
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: Re: [RTTY] 200 hz filter on RTTY

 Charles
Please pardon my ignorance, but is RiTTY the only RTTY program you use or is it 
inconjuction with 
somethinng else?  I use the PRO3 for RTTY, BUX COMM and MMTTY.

Thanks
73 Allan W2TN
---- "Charlesjr@afgimail.com" <Charlesjr@afgimail.com> wrote: 
> 
> There is actually three carriers on the signal you mentioned. The one in the 
> middle is the 
> strongest. The two weaker ones about 5hz each side from the middle one. I 
> always thought it was a 
> harmonic from some commercial station down in the 5.1mhz range. Sometimes you 
> can see all 3 
> sometimes not depending on condx's at the time and what your rig/software can 
> hear.
> I turned Autotune off in RITTY and had perfect copy with the weak right side 
> carrier about 3hz 
away 
> with the PROIII set at 350hz bw. The E4X sig was just a little stronger than 
> the weak right side 
> carrier with nothing showing on the s meter.
> RITTY can also copy single tone rtty, even vy weak ones. Every time I see a 
> spur I put the mark 
on 
> it and invert the signal with perfect copy. I have been questioned before 
> about spotting 
rare/semi 
> rare dx. One even got on the air and called me a liar when I spotted the T6 
> when other W's could 
> not hear him. Right after my spot EU jumped all over him and starting 
> spotting him. RITTY pulls 
> them out of the noise and in some cases you can't even see or hear the signal.
> I did not log them on 30M. Maybe next time.
> 73
> charles/kk5oq
> 
> 
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> >From    : Don Hill AA5AU[ mailto:aa5au@bellsouth.net] 
> Sent    : 5/31/2010 11:04:15 PM
> To      : rtty@contesting.com
> Cc      : 
> Subject : RE: [RTTY] 200 hz filter on RTTY
> 
>  Test driving a new Icom IC-7600 on consignment from Icom.
> 
> Tonight there were several us in New Orleans trying to copy E4X on 10140 kHz. 
>  There was a very 
> strong steady signal right on his
> mark frequency.  After a while, the carrier moved down about 40 hz.  At that 
> time, I implemented 
> the 200 hz filter on the '7600 and
> the carrier completely disappeared from the passband and I was able to copy 
> about 80-90%.
> 
> Something else the '7600 that the PRO III does not and that is the notch 
> filter works on RTTY 
with 
> the Twin Peak Filter turned on.
> Didn't help with the signal when it was right on his mark frequency though.  
> Not much you can do 
> about that although I have heard
> rumors of a modem that could actually copy Baudot hearing only one of the two 
> tones, but this 
could 
> have been a HAL myth.
> 
> I think I remember someone, maybe Chen, saying a 200 Hz filter would not work 
> on RTTY or 
something 
> to that effect.  Maybe I don't
> have the story just right, but it appears to be working great.  Too tight for 
> contesting, but 
works 
> when required.
> 
> 73, Don AA5AU
>   http://www.aa5au.com  
>   http://www.rttycontesting.com   
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