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Re: [RTTY] Disturbing Observations

To: w0mu@w0mu.com, aa5au@bellsouth.net, rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Disturbing Observations
From: "Charlesjr@afgimail.com" <Charlesjr@afgimail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:26:19 -0400
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I will not be reporting anyone. The op I came across keying both rigs was by 
pure chance.
I verified he was doing the same in a later contest. I never have checked on 
any other so2r ops.

Someone mentioned that this has been going on for ages. I guess that was meant 
since contesting 
started. The sponsors would we well aware of it by now. Not sure if anyone has 
been disqualified or 
not for it. I don't think it's the sponsors in the world series that ejects 
anyone.
Maybe some ref's or side judges is needed. I'm not saying the sponsor's are 
turning a blind eye to 
it.
It's only a hobby.
73
charles/kk5oq


------- Original Message -------
>From    : W0MU Mike Fatchett[mailto:w0mu@w0mu.com]
Sent    : 6/14/2010 3:42:54 PM
To      : aa5au@bellsouth.net; rtty@contesting.com
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: Re: [RTTY] Disturbing Observations

 Please report him.  I have heard this too.  This is not a problem with SO2R
it is a problem with the operator.  We don't remove cars from the road
because the speed or break the rules, they get tickets and their ability to
drive a car may be removed.  Maybe this operator was at a station that could
have 6 bands going at once.  

As already state folks use high power and claim less, use amps that put out
well over our legal limit etc.  This has been going on for years and years.

As for getting spotting on his run frequency I have done it.  If you use
N1MM and do not have the running box checked and have the spot new calls
going this will happen.  If your spots window it might take a bit to notice.

W0MU
 


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-----Original Message-----




Behalf Of Don Hill AA5AU


As I tuned around the bands during the last 8 hour segment, I found a USA
SO2R station transmitting on both 15 and 20 meters at the same time in a
blatant violation of the rules.  It wasn't a case of someone just making a
mistake.  I watched for 15-20 minutes and simply couldn't believe what I was
seeing.  I did let them know he or they were breaking the rules and he/they
immediately stopped.
But it made me mad.

Then a little while longer, I saw my call pop up on the bandmap on 20 meters
even though I was S&P on that band.  At first I thought someone made a
mistake.  Then I looked at the origin of the spot and realized it was a
station I had just worked.  This operator spotted me on his run frequency.
Although that is not a direct violation of the rules, it still irked me.

I don't know how much of this goes on, but it needs to stop.  The next time
I catch someone transmitting two signals at the same time, I will call them
out publicly on it.  I realize there will be instances of stations
transmitting at the same time (Multi-2, Multi-Multi).  But the rules of the
DLDC were specific:

4. GENERAL for all categories:

(e) Only one transmitted signal is permitted at any time.

As far as spotting other stations on one's run frequency, it's just the
wrong thing to do.  There have been times, such as when I was on ten meters,
when I wanted to spot someone on my run frequency just to let everyone else
know the band was open.  But I didn't.  So don't get caught up in it.

There's been a lot of cheating going on in CW and SSB contests and it's
apparent there is cheating on RTTY too.  I'm not sure what we can do about
it other than make it a point to let people know we aren't going to tolerate
it.  I'm definitely not going to tolerate it.

73, Don AA5AU
 http://www.aa5au.com 
 http://www.rttycontesting.com  

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