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Re: [RTTY] NA Sprint RTTY Log Check Report Analysis

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] NA Sprint RTTY Log Check Report Analysis
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: k0rc@citlink.net
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 10:32:41 -0500
List-post: <rtty@contesting.com">mailto:rtty@contesting.com>
Heh heh heh... now you guys got me thinking about whether I want to use 
BOB or BØB for my name in the next contest too!

BTW, TØM will be one of the operators at the WØAIH superstation this 
weekend for CQWW DX SSB. WØrk him, say hellØ!

73 de Bob (Bob) in MN


On 10/29/2010 10:00 AM, Ed Muns wrote:
> In this case, K0YR did not submit a log.  So the log checking used the QSOs
> in the logs of the stations he worked to determine the sent exchange.  While
> a lot of ops logged 'T0M' (with a zero), most logged the letter 'O'.  My
> recordings of the contest verified that K0YR sent 'T0M' with a zero to me,
> but I interpreted the zero as the letter 'O' since it was a name.  Just like
> I log '599' rather than '5NN' in a CW contest.
>
> 73,
> Ed
> -------------------------
> Ed Muns - W0YK
> www.w0yk.com
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Chudek - K0RC
>> Sent: Friday, 29 October, 2010 00:01
>> To: rtty@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] NA Sprint RTTY Log Check Report Analysis
>>
>> "Senator, I served with TØM", I know TØM. TØM is a friend of mine!"
>>
>> This problem actually is even more convoluted... What gets
>> sent out over the air from the macro string does not
>> necessarily have to match what was stored in the contest
>> header (which generates the sent report for the Cabrillo file).
>>
>> So he might have had TØM in the macro string, but TOM in the
>> contest header. If the log checking software goes by what is
>> in the Cabrillo file, it won't match was everyone logged
>> during the contest.
>>
>> Also, in a different contest, there was a station that had
>> exchanged the characters opposite. His callsign was supposed
>> to have a Zero, but he was transmitting an Oh on RTTY. I
>> alerted him to this at some point in the contest (early on).
>> The operator had fixed it by the next time I tuned across and
>> printed him. So what do you think is going to happen to the
>> fellows that logged "what was sent" prior to the operator
>> making a change?
>>
>> So when an obvious error prints to your screen, and you want
>> to "fix it", you will still be taking a WAG as to what will
>> pass or fail during the log checking process.
>>
>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/2010 11:36 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
>>> Yes, this is the crucial question.  Understand that log checking is
>>> going to give the nod to the sent exchange when the
>> received exchange
>>> differs.  But ... that doesn't mean the sent exchange is what is in
>>> the sender's log!  So, sometimes the innocent (who truly
>> logged what
>>> was sent) gets dinged.  Life is unfair, but trust me, far more log
>>> check errors are in your favor than vice versa.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Ed
>>> -------------------------
>>> Ed Muns - W0YK
>>> www.w0yk.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com
>>>> [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Iain
>> MacDonnell -
>>>> N6ML
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 28 October, 2010 21:18
>>>> To: Hank Garretson
>>>> Cc: David Levine; CQ Contesting Reflector; RTTY Reflector
>>>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] NA Sprint RTTY Log Check Report Analysis
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Hank
>> Garretson<w6sx@arrl.net>   wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
>>>>> <ar@dseven.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I must have manually typed it (as opposed to
>> clicking on
>>>>>> it), and goofed, but apparently he really was sending
>> sending "T0M"
>>>>>> (with a zero).
>>>>> A good reason to use a slash-zero font in your print window.
>>>> But that brings up the age-old question ... do you log
>> what he sent,
>>>> or what you think is what he really meant to send?
>>>>
>>>>       ~Iain / N6ML
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