> And is all VOICE.. ;O)
No, none of the image modes (SSTV, FSTV) are voice at all ... yet
they're still considered "phone."
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 8/2/2011 8:10 PM, Michael Haack wrote:
> And is all VOICE.. ;O)
>
>
>
> On 08/02/2011 7:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> No, Mike ... it is the equivalent of AM being changed to Phone.
>> ... and it's already that way. Remember, "Phone" includes AM,
>> SSB. FM, SSTV, DV and FSTV.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/2011 7:47 PM, Michael Haack wrote:
>>> No Joe, Its NOT inevitable.
>>>
>>> It was a Choice somebody made.
>>> Its equivalent to the PHONE award being changed to VOICE.
>>>
>>> And I wonder how far that would get.
>>>
>>> 73, Mike WB9B
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/02/2011 6:40 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>>> I agree. This is a mistake. RTTY is a fundamental and historical
>>>>> mode. CW, SSB, RTTY. Dropping it in favor of a generic Digital tag
>>>>> does not provide proper respect for a core mode.
>>>>
>>>> While I also mourn the loss of the "RTTY" DXCC, it is a change that is
>>>> inevitable. Even the "SSB" DXCC is not "SSB" DXCC - it is "Phone"
>>>> DXCC (check your certificates if you have one and look at the DXCC
>>>> page on the ARRL web site. Just as the "RTTY" (now "Digital") DXCC
>>>> accepts confirmations using a wide variety of digital encoding -
>>>> from IAT2 ("RTTY") in various data rates, to PSK, QPSK, AMTOR/PACTOR,
>>>> at their various rates to "strange" modes like MFSK, JT-modes, etc.
>>>> so to does the "Phone" DXCC accept many forms or analog modulation
>>>> - from double sideband with carrier "AM" to SSB, FM, and even SSTV
>>>> and probably digital voice.
>>>>
>>>> "RTTY" has not been an accurate name for the RTTY DXCC for many - maybe
>>>> 20 (?) years. I'm sure there were as many complaints from many of the
>>>> old-timers when the "AM" DXCC was changed to "phone" - certainly there
>>>> were complaints when confirmations using "SSB" were first accepted
>>>> (after all, SSB had that 10 dB advantage over AM - it was unfair).
>>>>
>>>> I am happy my "Digital" DXCC says RTTY and I don't intend to change it
>>>> - but it's time to recognize what has been happening for a long time.
>>>> Several of my confirmations are digital modes other than ITA2 - even
>>>> though I've worked all of the entities using "RTTY" - since some of
>>>> the "RTTY" operators simply would not QSL over the years while newer
>>>> "digital" operators don't seem to be so pecuniary!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>
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