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Re: [RTTY] 10m RTTY power levels

To: w0mu@w0mu.com, rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 10m RTTY power levels
From: Gedking@aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 14:41:54 -0500 (EST)
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What you are going is that the same people who ran hi power illegally in  
the CB Band will run illegally in the Ham bands.
If the shoe fits wear it. I don't want to hear about it
ED 
 
 
In a message dated 12/7/2011 2:10:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
w0mu@w0mu.com writes:

You are  comparing apples to oranges.  Everyone that is on a stock car 
track  follows the rules, most of the time anyway.  Ham radio allows 
anyone  to jump on the track and play.

A large majority of people in contests  are casual operators who could 
care less about the rules and you will  never change this attitude.  The 
casual operators are not competing  they are just having fun.  Without 
casual ops most contests of 24 to  48 hour duration would end up being 
quite boring toward the  end.

People who run QRP or low power are no better than those who run  power.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On  12/7/2011 11:47 AM, John wrote:
> My "two bits"... If a person chooses  to participate in a contest, I 
believe they should stay within the rules for  that contest. It has nothing to 
do with the privileges granted you by your  license.
>
> A station running 100 watts in a QRP contest, or 1500  watts in a 150 
watt contest, is not competing for operating frequencies or  stations calling 
them on a level playing field. Being stronger than you would  otherwise be is 
also misleading to stations trying to figure out optimal  propagation paths 
and beam headings.
>
> An analogy would be  competing in a stock car race without a restrictor 
plate. Knowing you have 100  more horsepower than the rest of the field, you 
might intend to voluntarily  withdraw at the end of the race, but that does 
not mean you did not affect the  outcome of the race for people who followed 
the rules.
>
>
>  73,
>
> John  W0DC
>
> ----- Original Message  -----
>    From: W0MU Mike Fatchett
>    To:  rtty@contesting.com
>    Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011  12:25 PM
>    Subject: Re: [RTTY] 10m RTTY power  levels
>
>
>    I don't understand why the  negative comments either.  If I am *not*
>    going to  submit a score then I can operate within the rules for my  
license.
>
>    We have had great fun in Field Day  running 1A  err  One Alpha...Alpha
>    amplifier  that is....and we have huge pileups.  We don't seem to get  
any
>    complaints from all those that called.  Everyone  on both sides seemed 
to
>    be having fun so what is the  issue?
>
>    Contesting and Ham Radio is supposed to be  fun.
>
>    Mike W0MU
>
>     W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
>
>    On 12/7/2011  11:21 AM, Phil Cooper wrote:
>    >  Hi  all,
>    >
>    >  I wasn't having  a go at anyone with my comments, although I now 
see that it
>   >  may have appeared this way.
>     >
>    >  I am sure there are some that didn't read  the rules, or planned to 
send in a
>    >  checklog  anyway, and kudos to them for operating this way.
>     >
>    >  I did wonder if I had mis-read the rules  in some way, as that 
wouldn't be
>    >  unknown  either. I did re-check just to see if multi-op stations 
were  allowed
>    >  high power, as that can be the case in  some contests.
>    >
>    >  I  also wanted to make sure that anyone who submitted a 3830 score 
under  HP,
>    >  knew that this was probably in their  Cabrillo file too, and to 
check!
>    >
>   >  Whichever way you look at it, this was a great contest, and  it is 
good to
>    >  see 10m alive now.
>   >  There were some nice DX stations active, and my contact with  VP2MWG 
has
>    >  already been confirmed on  LoTW.
>    >
>    >  73  all
>    >
>    >  Phil  GU0SUP
>    >
>    >
>   >
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