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Re: [RTTY] "QRL?" is a trick question on RTTY!

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] "QRL?" is a trick question on RTTY!
From: Larry <lknain@nc.rr.com>
Reply-to: w6nws@arrl.net
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 16:47:32 -0400
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So often I have just sent my exchange to a station and waiting for the response and I get a QRL? and 500ms later CQ from the station sending QRL? obliterating the response I was listening for. The QRL? station now thinks he is entitled to the frequency.

73, Larry  W6NWS

On 3/28/2016 11:41 AM, Bill Turner wrote:
I have to say, Tim's post below got me to thinking about the purpose of QFL? in 
the first place and not just contesting but ham radio in general. As I see it, 
the original purpose of QRL? way back at the beginning of ham radio was mostly 
to see if someone was ragchewing or handling traffic, both of which involve 
long transmissions. When that's going on and you can only hear one side, QRL? 
makes sense. Very different from contesting, where exchanges are short and 10 
or 15 seconds of listening will capture both sides.
Given that, QRL? seems to be all but useless in a contest and is an actual QRM generator. No more QRL? for me. 73, Bill W6WRT
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:02:11 -0400
From: tshoppa@gmail.com
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] "QRL?" is a trick question on RTTY!

If I am running with a well-established frequency for a half hour or an
hour, and somebody decides that "QRL?" for 10 seconds or even a whole
minute is a valid way to see if the frequency 50Hz away is free or not, I
will not print him and he will not print me.

I'm not saying that I never use the clarifier to print the off-frequency
callers. But I myself will never QSY my transmit frequency to meet an
off-frequency caller. Much less someone trying to justify taking my run
frequency.

Sending QRL? instead of listening to the frequency, is just a "trick
question" for him to validate QRM'ing me.

The only valid way to determine if the frequency is clear or not, is to
listen for a while!!!!

Lack of printable response to QRL? on RTTY will never be a valid to start
CQ'ing.

Tim N3QE
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