Bob,
You're missing the point, a logging program should allow
you to edit in real time to maintain an up to date and accurate log.
A contest program should allow you to work quickly.
Shutting down, running an editor, and restarting TR is not
very quick ...not to mention A LOT of extra unnecessary work.
Control - N is only a band-aid that does nothing for real time accuracy.
73 Bill N9BR
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Wruble <ai7b@teleport.com>
To: Bill <n9br@rsg.org>; Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>;
<trlog@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> hey if the ability to edit every contact in the log real time
> is an issue then shut the pgm dwn and edit the log.dat file with ur text
> editior and then go back in.......!!
>
> from my experience alt-n works great for noting any suspected
> probs with a qso past the last five........besides with all this emphasis
> on logging accuracy edit situations shud be rare!!
>
> w7gg
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill <n9br@rsg.org>
> To: Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>; <trlog@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
>
>
> >
> > Hi Dale,
> > Give me a break...don't you think accuracy would
> > give you a better score? Control N ...what?
> > Doesn't it seem a little strange that you can have a
> > logging program that you CAN'T edit a logged entry.
> > I can't believe I'm having this conversation.
> > I need to keep a log of errors for my logged
> > entries.... what?
> > I would think the "PRIME DIRECTIVE" would be to
> > accurately keep track of your contacts AND accurate
> > running totals .That might impact the outcome.. These are
> > not accurate if I can't edit my log in real time. Maybe this
> > could be a multiplier logged wrong....that I won't chase
> > because TR says its already in the log. Could be a
> > band mistake. Could be any number of things that
> > could impact my "performance"
> >
> > Dale wrote.....
> >
> > > A full log editing feature is something that can and probably should
> > > be handled AFTER the contest or during a break.
> >
> > Why?...Why should I wait till after the contest is over before
> > fixing a mistake AND getting an accurate picture of my
> > performance during a contest. Why is this better done "AFTER"?
> >
> > Dale wrote...
> >
> > If I need to edit more than 5 Q's back--I've gotten close, but it
> > > hasn't happened yet--I think I would either stop where I am and go fix
> > > it or simply put a CTL-N note in the log reminding me to fix it after
> > > the contest.
> > >
> > Please note what you said...stop where I am and fix it....
> > That's all I'd like to be able to do without shutting the program down,
> > starting a text editor, finding, fixing, closing and starting TR again
> > etc etc.
> > Do you like having totals wrong?. Does it somehow
> > improve your performance? Isn't having an accurate log
> > and score more important then most of the bells and
> > whistles that, I'm betting a good number of TR users
> > don't understand,....much less use?
> > I don't expect Tree is going to "fix" it anytime soon...but Jeez
> > would you at least agree an accurate and timely log is better
> > then an inaccurate one the should be fixed....after the contest?
> > How about at least a ..REAL TIME EDITOR....(Default off)
> > something simple.......dream on...I guess I better practice
> > my CW skills....Now if you guys would just stop making
> > mistakes sending it...I wouldn't have a need to edit my log
> > during OR after the contest......
> > 73 Bill N9BR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> > To: <trlog@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >Hi Rod,
> > > > Say what you want...I'm a life subscriber...TR user by choice and
> > > still
> > > >DO think it is a shortcoming in the program. In my view it would be a
> > > better
> > > >program if it could incorporate the seamless ease of correcting any
> > > entry
> > > >in the log at will....WITHOUT having to use a separate text editor.
> > > >Wake up...it's a logging program....can you understand that maybe
> > > >I'd like to modify an entry in my log even after I've worked five
> > > others
> > > >Q's?
> > >
> > > My understanding of Tree's "Prime Directive" (Hey! Tower Talk has a
> > > Prime Directive, TRLog should have one, too!) is that additions,
> > > deletions, modifications, new bells & whistles, etc., would only be
> > > made if it helped to increase an operator's performance and score in
> > > realtime operating. Is that not so?
> > >
> > > A full log editing feature is something that can and probably should
> > > be handled AFTER the contest or during a break.
> > >
> > > If I need to edit more than 5 Q's back--I've gotten close, but it
> > > hasn't happened yet--I think I would either stop where I am and go fix
> > > it or simply put a CTL-N note in the log reminding me to fix it after
> > > the contest.
> > >
> > > Keep making my score bigger, Tree!!!
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > dale, kg5u
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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