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[TenTec] Contests (was OMNI-VI Plus features lost...)

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Subject: [TenTec] Contests (was OMNI-VI Plus features lost...)
From: bcitkow@execpc.com (Bob)
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:01:19 -0500
i agree with the biggest amplifier winning to an extent, antenna/tower/qth
are also factors in who wins contests besides the operator skills involved.
a bad op with an amp cannot win contests, even with an kicking antenna

there probably should be an advantage to using lower power in scoring, but
who is to know if i am running 100/200/500 watts and saying that i am
running only 100w?  i could have stacked beams up 90 feet for 40m!  a long
time ago, just got my general, i was working a ssb dx pileup on 20m and the
dx said "only mobile station now please".  a guy in 2 land threw out his
call and was worked.  everyone jumped on him on the air because everyone
said he was running a linear to a tower and wasn't mobile.  he said he
wasn't.  who's to know?  he was in the log.

as to observers in contests!?!?!  no thanks.  there are already arrl
official observers out there looking for idiots.  if you frame the notice
that they send you it makes a nice addition to your ham shack wall!

contests are sometimes fun to be in.  i'm never going to win but like to
play once in a while.  i have a life and figure let those players have their
fun too.  most never get on the air unless there is a contest on.  work the
warc bands, work phone during cw contests, work cw during ssb contests.

a points scoring change might be interesting, arrl would never go for the
change tho.  see my who would know comments in the second paragraph.  if you
work a qrp station you should get more points for working it cause you gotta
listen harder and the sending qrp station should get more points because no
one can hear him.  then again, qrp stations, a and b power stations really
only compete against themselves in the listings anyway so what are we really
discussing here?

this could just be another one of those bandwidth wasting issues.


-----Original Message-----
From: Al Gulseth <agulseth@juno.com>
To: tentec@contesting.com <tentec@contesting.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:06 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Contests (was OMNI-VI Plus features lost...)

>Contests are the issue they are because the rules need to be updated. At
>present, contesting (with a few minor exceptions) comes down to "may the
>biggest amplifier win". I would propose the following rules changes which
>I believe would eliminate a large portion of the problem:
> 1. The current rules in most contests give too much advantage to
>high power and thus cause excessive QRM on the bands. Revising the power
>multiplier system would do a great deal toward equalizing the playing
>field. Either A. use a system where the power multiplier would be
>directly proportional to the power used with 100 watts as the base point
>(i.e., 100 watts = multiplier of 1, 1500 watts = DIVIDE score by 15, 1
>watt = MULTIPLY score by 100) or B. if the type "Alpha" ("Life's too
>short for QRP") guys moan and complain too much about their loss of
>advantage use something like the logarithmic relationship (dB ratio) of
>the power levels as the multiplier.
> 2. Set up a system of contest observers -- if a station is
>verified as being in deliberate and/or flagrant violation of FCC rules or
>good (courteous) operating practice by at least two independent
>observers, that station would be disqualified from the contest, and
>depending on the severity of the offense, be penalized points or barred
>from participating in contests for a period of time.
>I believe the above changes, possibly in conjunction with the idea of
>dividing the bands into "contest" and "non-contest" areas, would go a
>long way toward resolving this controversy which has been going on for
>many years.
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