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Subject: [TenTec] Is Jupiter > Icom 746: what is "quiet"?
From: cyr999@extremezone.com (cyr999@extremezone.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 15:39:35 -0700 (MST)
Hi all - 

I find it quite interesting that Joe has aid the Jupitor is quieter. I have no 
way of knowing since I have never even seen a Jupitor. What I am REALLY curious 
about is how the phrase "Quieter" is defined. In one sense, if you hear 
nothing, 
a rig will be really quiet! On the other hand a rig could be quiet yet in doing 
so shut out some signals you'd really like to hear. I know I sound like a 
techno 
idiot, but I am beginning to wonder what "quiet" is. Anybody care to share a 
practical definition of a "quiet rig"?   


I have an interesting last two months which I feel has opened my eyes a bit. 
When I finally cleared up a few internal shack errors (with George's help), my 
756 PRO ran circles around my OMNI V. A took me a little bit of time to sort 
out 
some problems that I created when I rearranged my shack upon getting the 756 - 
mainly ground loops and RFI. (One thing I did was hookup an external audio amp 
that is totally cool). Once my idiot mistakes were taken care of I could truly 
experience the 756 PRO. It is a phenomenal rig. 

Now don't get me wrong, I LOVED that OMNI V and I love TenTec as a company. I 
still do and always will.  But I have to say that I feel I listened to the 
"crystals are the only way" theme for too long and it made me narrow minded. 
The 
756 PRO is one terrific rig - no matter where it's made. 

Now here's the interesting part - once I learned how to use it and got used to 
the characteristics of a DSP rig, I realized my "quiet" OMNI was not hearing 
sigs the 756 was hearing. I know very little about interpreting the spec 
comparisons as shown on Elecraft's chart for all the major rigs, but I do know 
what I hear in the shack. So how do we define a "quiet" receiver?

Quoting Joe Word <joe_word@yahoo.com>:

> John,
> 
> I did own an Icom IC-746 and now own a Jupiter.
> Compared them side-by-side for about a month. I
> decided to keep the Jupiter and sell the IC-746
> because the Jupiter was much quieter on receive. Here
> are my thoughts on the two rigs:
> 
> Jupiter strong points.
> 1. Quiet receiver.
> 2. Better audio reports on transmit.
> 3. Digital filters, I use them as often as I use RIT.
> 4. Very seldon use NR because the rig is so quiet, but
> used NR all the time on the IC-746. NR does work great
> on 75 meters and has no (none) watery sound.
> 5. Not picky about SWR, will put out full power at
> high SWR. 
> 
> IC-746 strong points and what you lose with the
> Jupiter.
> 1. One button band selection.
> 2. Triple band stacking registers.
> 3. Twin passband tuning.
> 4. Antenna tuner.
> 5. Much better display.
> 6. Better control knob feel, the Jupiter's multi knob
> feels like you are turning a stick molasses. 
> 7. Less prone to have RF problems in rig.
> 
> Well this is my opinion...
> 
> Joe  K9MAN
> 
> 
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