Nope - The first Altair had no OS - just the 4K and 8K basic - it had all
the IO built into the basic interpreter, including later 8" floppy drivers -
I know, cause I had to disassemble part of it to modify the TTY driver to
work with my homebrew serial port card. And the basic interpreters (8K and
4K) were developed by Gates and Allen on a Dec PDP-11 with a
cross-assembler. IT was later, after they moved to Washington State, that
they bought a 16 bit OS modeled after CPM from a guy up there. That was
when IBM was looking for an OS. IBM approached Gary Kildall, the guy who
wrote CPM and wanted him to modify it for the 8086, but he was on his
sailboat and didn't want to come in for an appointment with the IBM folks,
so they went to MS.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of NJ0IP
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 4:17 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TenTec] Basic question - Long
Dave,
Didn't they buy that O/S from somewhere, prune it, and then run it on the
Altair.
I seem to remember and I know where I can go look it up (Bill's first book)
when I get time.
73
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of David W LeJeune, Sr
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:26 AM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [TenTec] Basic question - Long
Actually - not - I attended the first Altair World convention in Jan 1978.
Had lunch with Bill Gates - Apple 1 was not yet available. Altair 8800 was
actually first commercially available microcomputer and was running
Gates/Allen Basic. Got my copy of 4K Basic in May 1977 and my copy of 8K
Basic in July 1978. Paper tape version. Worked, TOO!
Dave K5WNV
-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of William Mahaffey
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:57 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Basic question - Long
> Don't stop...since we can't talk about the Orion firmware
> on the Ten Tec
> reflector...we can bash computers!
ok.
> Yep, it was Gates who once said that...I think that was >
> way before there
> was an orange..er..an apple...
Apple existed way before gates.
> Hmmmm...where can I get some Apple software that will run
> 385 servers
> spread
> across the country...that will NOT fail?
Try BEA.
And, oh yes, don't try to have those windows
servers actually try to do something other than
the occasional file sharing. They will crash.
I have seen systems that repeatedly crashed
windows (NT) because they could not service
requests fast enough, then recompile those
systems for unix without one line change
and have the unix boxes run at 35% cpu
utilization. Windows is ok if you don't
actually use it, or need to make changes.
maybe.
>What COM ports? Only reason we
> need
> COM ports now is to run ham software.
So, how is the support guy gonna connect?
Most sites still need to have the warm
fuzzy feeling that they can hang up the
telephone rather then opening their network
up for remote connects.
> OH yea, I've been running WinXPpro
> on
> my three home made PC's also for three years with NO
crashes.
I refer you to my earlier comment about actually using it.
> By the
> way,
> did you build your MAC?
No, I didn't have to.
What exactly did you actually build?
this is fun..
73,
bill w6eet
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