| Hi Robert and Happy Holidays, 
 Glad to hear things are improving with your Orion. Kinda hard to 
equate moving your WiFi that operates at 2.8GHz to reducing the 
noise in your SubRx? But you really never know what other unfiltered 
'garbage' those things might be producing! 
Fortunately/unfortunately, I had been living with dial-up out here 
in the sticks until this past August when I finally got DSL here. 
Then installed WiFi router, sitting three foot away from my Orion 
and other rigs, and did not notice any change is noise level when I 
hooked that up. I've also been using the Astron 70 amp linear supply 
since I got this station set up; it's an overkill to just use to 
power the Orion or Omni 6 or the Plus, but it's the kind of overkill 
I like to have. I did hear and read a service note from Astrom about 
their recommendation to physically ground the negative lead to the 
power supply chassis, but have not done that yet on my power supply. 
By the way, I also have ferrite clamp on's on every lead going to my 
Orion, even including the speaker leads and never saw any 
improvement here. Actually I did not expect to see any improvement 
because I have no RFI problems in my station. But then too, I've 
never seen ferrites that were able to cure firmware problems!
 
 The failures you have at 'crucial times' is one of my main 
complaint's about the Orion. Since I love to do contesting, that is 
just something I did not pay $3500 to have to put up with. Plus Ten 
Tec still has not lifted  a finger yet to try to solve the issue of 
running their own Titan 3 amplifier in the Orion's keying loop.
 
 I now have a solution for me...I recently purchased a late serial 
number Icom IC-781...it has extremely clean receiver audio, the QSK 
at normal speeds and at high speeds is just excellent, and so far, I 
have not yet had to do a Master Reset! Strange as it may seem to 
some on this reflector, my Corsair 2, my Omni 6, and my Omni 6 Plus 
seem to work flawless here in this set up and even with the Titan 3 
in those rig's keying loop. I just must be doing something wrong 
since the Titan 3 works in three different Ten Tec rigs keying loop, 
but will continue to randomly fail when used with the Orion keying 
loop.
 
 Nope, for me, the Orion will probably never be 'my radio'.
 
 Opps!! I better shut up before Toby tells me I should go to the Icom 
reflector.
 
 Hope you have a great Christmas Robert!
 
 73,
 
 Tom - W4BQF
 
 
 "So you have enemies?
Good.
That means you have stood up for something,
sometime in your life."
--Sir Winston Churchill-- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Carroll" <rlcarroll@patmedia.net>
 To: <tentec@contesting.com>
 Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:22 PM
 Subject: RE: [TenTec] Orion and SSB
 
 
 
 Hi, Tom-
 The outcome here has been looking up.  After the last firmware 
load the
 receiver was definitely a better performer but I still had 
horrendously
 timed rx and sub rx failures--usually when calling the VU4 or some 
nice 160m
 DX.  By the time I would get things running again the dx had gone.
 
 Finally the subreceiver started to fail in "noisy" mode.  It 
actually
 sounded like it was alive but there were no signals--and the band 
like noise
 was fake, because if you disconnected the antenna the noise on the 
main rx
 disappeared but the sub rx still had the noise--which at times 
could sound
 like ignition noise, thermal noise, or an old motorboating 1930's 
antique
 with dried out bypasses.  TenTec decided this was a hardware fault 
and sent
 me a replacement though used board.  This cured the noisy failure 
but the
 "silent failure" for both receivers and loss of transmit and some 
other
 truly bizarre failures occurred.  Ten Tec called and said the 
Astron 35
 supply I happened to be using often had a faulty connection 
between the
 negative lead and metal and suggested I change supplies.  I moved 
to an
 Astron 70A unit and the situation seemed marginally improved, but 
again I
 had failures--of course at crucial times.  I had already put 
ferrite on the
 lead to the amp relay as I had seen some mail saying several 
people had
 found this crucial.  Still the failures.  So I put ferrite on 
everything
 coming into the Orion including the data port.  I also moved a 
WiFi
 router/amp which was nearby.  Since then it has not failed in any 
way--and
 this is over a four day period.  This was unheard of for me.  So, 
I am not
 sure just what I did that helped, or even for sure that it won't 
sink back
 into the former condition tomorrow, but I am greatly encouraged. 
To top it
 off I managed to work the VU4 this AM.  A nice Christmas present.
 
 My son-in-law and daughter just got back form a few days in 
Atlanta and
 bought a house while they were there.  I guess I better accelerate 
my pace
 of getting this place ready to sell.
 
 
 '73 and Happy Holidays
Bob W2WG -----Original Message-----
 From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
 On Behalf Of Tommy
 Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:40 PM
 To: tentec@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion and SSB
 
 Amazing isn't it? The only complaint's you hear come from people 
who
 are having problems....man...that must be a brand new concept!
 
 Tom - W4BQF
 
 
 "So you have enemies?
Good.
That means you have stood up for something,
sometime in your life."
--Sir Winston Churchill-- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Gwin" <jtgwin@comcast.net>
 To: <tentec@contesting.com>
 Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion and SSB
 
 
 
 Exactly the same here - full legal power, Heil mic, no problem,
unsolicited complimentary reports. 
 And did you notice, its usually the same folks having trouble and
complaining? Mine works fine.  Thanks, T-T.
 
 -W4SK
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Spencer" <ronspencer@nc.rr.com>
 To: <tentec@contesting.com>
 Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 6:10 PM
 Subject: [TenTec] Orion and SSB
 
 
 We often hear of the troubles people are having but rarely do we
have that
balanced with comments from those not having trouble.
 
 I have the Orion and am using, with no troubles, a heil pro
headset. In fact
even got some compliments on the audio during the 10 meter
contest. And yes,
that's running 1500 watts. Best of luck to those having trouble in tracking it down.
 
 73     Ron    N4XD
 
 
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