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Re: [TenTec] I Love the "ORION"!!! I just bought one!

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] I Love the "ORION"!!! I just bought one!
From: Jerry Volpe <kg6tt@tomorrowsweb.com>
Reply-to: kg6tt@tomorrowsweb.com, tentec@contesting.com
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:19:28 -0800
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Jim Davis wrote:

Question to anyone knowledgeable:

Electrically what is the difference in performance
between the three types of filters used today, namely
the "Mechanical", the "Ceramic", and the so-called
"Roofing"???

I really don't have a clue but I'd like to LEARN!!!

Jim/nn6ee



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I'm going to dabble around on this one. Hopefully, without getting too technical, I can give you a broad answer without deriving too many flames!

The term 'roofing' refers not to the actual filter design itself but to where a filter is placed within the intermediary frequency (IF) chain of the receiver. It basically sets the maximum bandpass for the entire IF chain and is usually made narrow enough to maximize 'image rejection' characteristics but broad enough to provide the minimum bandpass needed by the reciever's widest operating mode (FM, AM, SSB, CW, etc.).

Until recently receiver designers typically utilized a single 'roofing' filter designed to pass the broadest bandwidth of incoming signals into the receiver's IF chain and then derived additional, mode specific, IF bandwidth selectivity further down the IF chain where there were greater choices in filter types and ofter reduced filter costs. The desire to produce more 'competition' quality receivers has designers looking more carefully at the roofing filter choice and in the case of today's more expensive ham transceivers typically offer multiple roofing filter options. An operator who mainly uses CW might want to choose increasingly selective roofing filters with bandpass characteristics specific for CW reception, while a operator you uses SSB but not AM or FM might want a roofing filter that tightens in on the essential bandpass needed for SSB. An operator you likes to listen to AM or even FM needs to be able to choose a very broad roofing filter.

A roofing filter can be comprised of a basic LC filter (typical in older, inexpensive receiver designs), a ceramic filter, a mechical filter, or a crystal filter. The actual names of the filter types describe what the filter uses as resonating internal components to 'constrain' the flow of RF energy outside the desired filter bandpass.

Generally speaking LC style filters are rarely used today (other than for amplifier stage coupling) in IF's ranges above 50 or 100 kHz due to the difficulty in generating really high 'Q' filters at higher frequencies.

Ceramic filters are by far the least expensive 'usable' filter to manufacture and can be made to operate effectively from medium to very high frequency IF center frequencies (455 KHz and above). When compared to mechanical or crystal designes, ceramic filters rarely provide very steep shape factors and they tend to suffer from poorer band reject characteristics. Nevertheless, ceramic filters do tend to be the filter of choice for average 'roofing' filter applications and sometimes for later IF stages as well.

Mechanical filters (I believe originally developed commercially by Collins Radio... or at least made popular in Collins designs of the 1950s-1970s) can be used quite effectively in IFs of low to medium center frequency design (455 KHz to several MHz) where they provide very steep shape factors (little 'ringing') and excellent band reject characteristics for IF's. Quality mechanical filters tend to be somewhat expensive to manufacture and are not operationally practical at higher IF center frequencies so they would not be used as a 'roofing' filter in todays multi-conversion receiver designs.

Crystal filters have been around since the 1930s (in very simple designs) and can be manufactured to operate over a very wide range of center frequencies and with shape factors and ultimate rejection characteristics that rival mechanical filters. Since crystal filters can be designed/ manufactured to work in nearly every IF frequency range typical in ham receiver designs they are becoming to filter of choice for more exacting IF applications including their use as higher quality 'roofing filters'.

I hope this info is useful.

73,
Jerald, KG6TT


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