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Re: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements, Flex Radio

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements, Flex Radio
From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:27:13 -0600
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    Please change "like" to "link!"

    Sorry.

        73,


        Bernard, WA4OEJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements, Flex Radio


>     Steve:
>
>         Could you post the like for the "flex radio?"
>
>         Is this the radio that Yuri and company have been developing?
>
>             73,
>
>
>             Bernard, WA4OEJ
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements, Flex Radio
>
>
> > I think TenTec could easily get $4,999 for the Orion if they would add a
> > color screen, soup up the processor, make the bandscope at least as good
> as
> > the PRO and fix the firmware. You would then see those crowds flock
around
> > the TT display and the Orion would be the biggest hit since the IC-706.
> > Personally I don't care if it requires a new model number like Orion II.
> Of
> > course it would be better if the Orion could be retrofitted like the
Omni
> > VI, option 1, 2 3 etc. I'm saving up the money for whenever this
happens.
> >
> > Oh......Speaking of firmware bugs. You guys having seen anything until
you
> > try the Flex-Radio. I've spent a great deal of time playing with one
here.
> > It's got some great potential but it's a long way from being practical
as
> > your only ham rig. If someone would take the receiver concept and
package
> it
> > with a built in CPU, Hard drive, sound card etc. all in one box it would
> be
> > awesome. The simple receiver in that radio is something everyone should
> > hear. The audio quality is simply astounding and the selectivity
something
> > that leaves one with a dropped jaw. For instance, I set the bandwidth to
> > 100hz, tuned in a weak QRP station at S3, fired up my Omni VI at 60db
over
> > S9 just 110hz away and noticed no degradation in reception. This is
> > impossible! Nothing has ever come close to sounding as quiet, pure and
> clean
> > on cw as this thing. The problems mostly involve control software
> stability
> > and cw keying. Both need a lot of work. Buying a Flex is really joining
a
> > think tank instead of buying a "plug and play" rig. You become part of a
> > development team along with a great bunch of guys. The openness and
> > willingness to share thoughts and ideas between he manufacture and the
> buyer
> > have never been equaled and I think eventually they will have a great
> > product.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Ellington
> > N4LQ@iglou.com
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 5:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements!!!
> >
> >
> > > This is my opinion only!
> > >
> > > I think it's becoming obvious that what the ham radio user community
> wants
> > > in a radio has changed to more 'glitz' that actual operational
> > > performance. Ten Tec probably designed the Orion with customer loyalty
> in
> > > mind, the 'IY' manufacturers designed their latest rig's with the
> > > customer's wallet in mind. (Acknowledging the 'IY' manufacterers
current
> > > radios technical performance IS quite good.) The Orion is just about
as
> > > perfect 'hardware design' as one could ask from amateur equipment. The
> > > ONLY snaffu in the Orion design is possible the added stages of
> > > amplification on the last two narrow roofing filter positions, done
with
> > > their user community in mind. The selectable roofing filters, which
help
> > > provide the very best receiver performance available kinda caught the
> > > competition grasping for some way to use the term 'roofing filter'.
Ten
> > > Tec again, with the user community (cost to the user) in mind, used a
> > > non-color display. The concept of a near-perfect hardware design and
> > > firmware downloadable updates should have been a 'killer' system for
the
> > > ham community IF the ham community was still technical-orionted.
> > >
> > > Two major problems; 1) The very old addage "One aw-s**t will kill a
> > > thousand 'Atta-Boys'!" remains true today. While the Orion is an
> extremely
> > > excellent hardware design, Ten Tec kinda dropped the ball with the
> Orion's
> > > firmware; 2) probably 95% of today's ham community think a color
screen
> > > (so to speak) is much more important than actual radio performance
under
> > > extreme operating conditions.
> > >
> > > What I saw yesterday at the Orlando hamfest kinda brings home the
point
> > > about today's hams. During my walk around at that hamfest what I saw
was
> > > shocking to me.
> > >
> > > First walk through approximate number of ham visitors:
> > >
> > > Yaesu booth:        25 to 30 visitors at the booth.
> > > Icom booth:          30 to 40 visitors at the booth.
> > > Elecraft booth:      10 to 15 visitior at the booth.
> > > FlexRadio booth:  8 to 10 visitors at the booth.
> > > Ten Tec booth:      Only person present was the sales guy.
> > >
> > > Two hours later:
> > >
> > > Yaesu booth:       20-30 visitors
> > > Icom booth:         20-30 visitors
> > > Elcraft booth:       8-10 visitors
> > > FlexRadio booth: 5-10 visitors
> > > Ten Tec booth:    Myself and the TT sales guy.
> > >
> > > My immediate impression was the non-technical ham of today probably
> ranks
> > > pretty color screens over pure absolute technical performance. I think
> > > even if Ten Tec had a flawless firmware package in the Orion today,
the
> > > 'average' ham would prefer showing his friends the 'pretty color
screen'
> > > and boast about how much it cost instead of proudly boasting about the
> > > technical excellence of their Orion.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the "Guys @ TT" had the wisdom to produce the best
> hardware
> > > design offered to the ham community on their first try, and I personal
ly
> > > do not see the need for "Hardware" improvements via an Orion Pro II,
or
> > > what ever. Of course, advancement in technology would require such, in
> the
> > > future.
> > >
> > > Tom - W4BQF
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Jim Davis" <nn6ee@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Ten-Tec List" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 1:51 PM
> > > Subject: [TenTec] TT (Orion) Future improvements!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >> Gentlemen,
> > >>
> > >> In the future I hope that the Guys @ TT have the
> > >> wisdom to offer "Hardware" improvements (when
> > >> available) instead of offering a entirely new version
> > >> of our Rig. Look what manufacturers like Icom did to
> > >> us  when they brought out the IC-756, then the PRO,
> > >> then the PRO 2, then the PRO 3!!!  All similar rigs
> > >> but enough differences to preclude any chance of
> > >> up-grading any of them by their owners which I think
> > >> is an insult to all of us who ARE NOT independently
> > >> wealthy or have a psycotic need to keep up with the
> > >> "JONESES!!!"  $3400.00 is too big a chunk of change to
> > >> have to part with every time TT brings out a better
> > >> rig?
> > >>
> > >> The "ORION" is a stellar rig, no doubt about it, BUT
> > >> still the hardware should be made avaialble when the
> > >> time comes and it WILL!!!
> > >>
> > >> Any thoughts???
> > >>
> > >> Jim/nn6ee
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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