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Re: [TenTec] Phase Noise on Jupiter

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Phase Noise on Jupiter
From: "Toby Pennington" <toby423@earthlink.net>
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Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:32:32 -0400
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Steve,  Thanks for the info about the phasing noise.  I can live with it and
since the Jupiter is going to be a backup rig to the Orion,  it may not be a
major problem for me, just don't like it being in there though.  You are
right,   there is some difference from rig to rig.  I have tried three
different ones now and they all have the problem to some degree but two of
them are worse than the third. I love the JUP's QSK however,  and general
ease of operation with the menus and settings.  Just wish there was a fix
for the raspy cw note or phase noise introduced into the audio stream of
received cw signals. Getting good reports on the sent cw note so far.
Toby W4CAK


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "n4lq" <n4lq@iglou.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Phase Noise on Jupiter


> This is typical of Peg/Jupes. It is also on transmit but usually not
> noticable unless the signal is super strong like S9+30db. You can see
> the phase noise on the ARRL expanded report. It's many db down from the
> carrier but still higher than most rigs. It seems to originate in the
> first conversion stage, 45mhz or whatever. Also I've noticed some rigs
> have it worse than others. On Pegasus's it sounds "hissy" and on some
> Jupiters it sounds raspy. Years ago when the Peg was introduced I bought
> one and the 45mhz osc. was microphonic. You could modulate the carrier
> by tapping on the cabinet! I got a few T8 reports and shipped it back to
> TT. After 2 weeks, they concluded that they all sound that way. I got a
> prompt refund. Recently I tried another one, much newer. No sign of the
> same trouble and rather clean carrier. Your mileage will vary on these
> rigs.
>
> Steve N4LQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Toby Pennington" <toby423@earthlink.net>
> To: "Ten Tec List" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:35:20 -0400
> Subject: [TenTec] Phase Noise on Jupiter
>
> > I hate to change the subject of getting ripped off on the auction
> > sites.  But I have been playing recently with several Jupiters and
> > notice that there is a phase noise interjected on  cw signals,
> > expecially the stronger ones.  This is on receive only.
> >
> > I read in the archives a thread about this in 2001 but never could find
> > a conclusion or a fix for the problem.  Turning down the RF gain or
> > engaging the ATTN does not seem to help.
> >
> > Some would call this a raspy cw note.  Moving the power supply away
> > from the rig doesn't help any.   Is there an answer for this
> > characteristic of the Jupiter,  or is it just  something a Jupiter
> > owner just has to enjoy.
> >
> > Toby  W4CAK
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