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Re: [TenTec] cw settings

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] cw settings
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:06:01 -1000
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Hi Bob,

Thanks for making the measurements and posting your results.

I would like to know what really is the right way to measure rise time of a CW keying envelope. I cannot see how measuring from 0% to 100% power output can ever give an accurate and repeatable measurement, because the noise level in your instrumentation would have to be absolutely zero in order to discern exactly when the power output has gone above zero. The same is true of determining exactly when the power has reached 100%.

Also I believe that the highest slew rate is what determines the bandwidth that the signal will occupy. The steepest slope of the amplitude increase should occur somewhere near the middle as the power level is rising through the 50% area. In the zero to 10% and 90% to 100% areas the slope is not as steep, and averaging those portions into the measurement may give a measurement which if used to calculate the occupied bandwidth, would result in a lower bandwidth than what the signal actually occupies.

Sure, I'm being picky. Inquiring minds want to know. Perhaps there is some ITU defined standard for measuring CW keying envelope rise time. Maybe someone will tell us.

DE N6KB


I was interested in total rise time, so I measured from 0% to 100%, plus or
minus 0.1 ms as best I could judge by eye, but the very distinct and uniform
waveform made it pretty easy to do at 2.5 ms per division. Quick and dirty,
just to get a rough idea of the relationship between indicated and actual.




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