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Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>
Reply-to: Carl Moreschi <n4py@arrl.net>,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:20:26 -0400
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Do you have anything plugged into the "line out" connection on the back of
the Orion?  Do you have anything plugged into the Acc I/O audio output
connections?  If so, remove these connections and see if that changes
anything.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Bell Mountain
Hays, NC 28635
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@5b4agn.net>
To: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments


> Thanks Carl.  Also interesting.  I have just loaded 2.059d and find the
> sidetone to be substantially click free, whereas with 2.060b I hear a
> pronounced back-end click.  Click volume is unaffected by sidetone level.
> Consequently, the higher the sidetone level the less evident the click.
> However, as sidetone level increases the tonal quality deteriorates.
Sounds
> like overload introducing harmonic distortion.
>
> I used the same headphones with both releases. 2.059d doesn't click and
> 2.060b does. Perhaps the click has arisen as a consequence of the increase
> in QSK turnaround speed.  However, before anyone shouts "trade-off"; my
> homebuilt Picastar DSP transceiver QSKs at >60wpm and does so without any
> sign of clicking or harmonic distortion in its sidetone.  (Same headphones
> as I use with Orion.)
>
> Bob, 5B4AGN
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
>
>
> >I just tried headphones and my sidetone was also fine in headphones.  But
> > then I tried several different headphones.  If the headphones I was
using
> > were inefficient causing me to have to run the Orion volume higher than
> > speaker level, then the receiver smuck at the end of the CW element
> > sounded
> > much louder.  But if I moved the sidetone volume up, then the smuck was
> > much
> > less apparent.  But in no case do I hear any harmonics or artifacts on
the
> > sidetone.
> >
> > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > 121 Little Bell Drive
> > Bell Mountain
> > Hays, NC 28635
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@5b4agn.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
> >
> >
> >> A useful observation Don.  I always use headphones.  Just checked and
> >> mine
> >> is fine on speaker too.  With headphones, I could live with the
harmonic
> >> content but the tail end click is really Nasty.
> >>
> >> Bob, 5B4AGN
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Don Binkley" <n4zz@bellsouth.net>
> >> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 3:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
> >>
> >>
> >> > My sidetone is fne with speaker not okay with headphones.
> >> >
> >> > Don n4zz
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Wes Attaway (N5WA)" <wesattaway@bellsouth.net>
> >> > To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>;
"'Carl
> >> > Moreschi'" <n4py@arrl.net>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:49 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> My sidetone is also fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> >> >> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Henderson
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:46 AM
> >> >> To: Carl Moreschi; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
> >> >>
> >> >> Carl
> >> >>
> >> >> Battery reset, master reset and power off/on carried out but
> >> >> sidetone is
> >> >> poor.
> >> >>
> >> >> Interesting that yours is ok.  I really don't know what to make
> >> >> of that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bob
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>
> >> >> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:42 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>I don't understand the sidetone comments.  The sidetone on my
> >> >> Orion with
> >> >>> 2.060b sounds perfect.  Is there an issue with with a battery
> >> >> reset,
> >> >>> followed by a master reset, followed by a power on/off being
> >> >> necessary?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> >> >>> 121 Little Bell Drive
> >> >>> Bell Mountain
> >> >>> Hays, NC 28635
> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >>> From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@5b4agn.net>
> >> >>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:16 AM
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] V2.060b Release Comments
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Impementation of band-stacking ID is a big plus.  Many thanks
> >> >> Ten Tec
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The benefit of adding the SPLIT designator is completely lost
> >> >> on me.
> >> >>>> Split
> >> >>>> already being indicated by both VFO A/B switch lights and also
> >> >> TRS
> >> >>>> designators above and below main frequency LSDigits.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> QSK speed improvement is much appreciated but the previously
> >> >> acceptable
> >> >>>> CW
> >> >>>> sidetone is now AWFUL.  High harmonic content with a loud
> >> >> tail-end click.
> >> >>> I
> >> >>>> do hope Ten Tec implement a fix for this quickly !
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If the sidetone wasn't screwed this would be a very worthwhile
> >> >> release
> >> >>> from
> >> >>>> my POV.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Bob, 5B4AGN
> >> >>>>
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