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From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:36:36 -0500
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Ok I admit it I am a knuckle dragger ... Is that how Ionizers made to clean 
air work by creating Ozone ?   John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT


> I'm not Carter obviously, but yes, he is right.
>
> When I worked for Kodak we made copiers, and we had to massively filter 
> the
> output cooling air
> so that all ozone was removed.  It is law.  The studies show that ozone is
> harmful to your health, both short term and also if you have chronic
> exposure.
>
> I can't imagine how in hell they can sell these things.  I've often
> wondered.  Maybe they have to limit the output.
>
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
>
>
>> HI Carter , I took the time to reread you email a little closer.  Are you
>> saying that the air cleaner Ionizers are Hazardous to your health ?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
>>
>>
>> > Hi carter! the notebook actually smelled worse than it looked no yellow
>> > coating after we were finished we put our noses up to the plug
> connections
>> > ,
>> > keypad , battery comp etc all smelled much much better.  John
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Carter" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
>> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:19 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
>> >
>> >
>> >> John wrote:
>> >>>  Here is a little tip we just learned. My son kc2iyg just bought a
>> >>>  laptop computer used.  The computer was a good deal but it stunk to
>> >>>  high heaven from tobacco smoke .  We took a chance , he first wiped
>> >>>  the surface of the notebook down with a antibacterial wipe and then
>> >>>  he dug out a small Ionizer .  He placed the Ionizer next to the
>> >>>  notebook and covered both with a plastic tucker tote ( a med sized
>> >>>  trash can of sorts ) and let it do it's thing for 4 hours .  Well he
>> >>>  pulled the notebook out and to our surprise the smoke smell was
>> >>>  almost completely gone !  I thought this might work with some radios
>> >>>  we some times  pick up for a song and the previous owner was a 
>> >>> smoker
>> >>
>> >> John and Mike,
>> >> Thanks for the tip.
>> >>
>> >> However, I have two concerns:
>> >>
>> >> First, ozone from the 'Ionizer' is quite reactive. It can damage stuff
>> >> like rubber (to say nothing of your lungs). I have seen published the
>> >> fact that ozone can cause as much cell damage as gamma radiation.
>> >> Definitely nasty stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Finally, is it just doing a 'superficial' job? By that I mean it may
>> >> just be getting rid of the smell (which I realize is one of your
> goals),
>> >> but is it actually removing the yellow gunk that is coating the item 
>> >> in
>> >> question? When I have scrubbed the front panel or cabinet of ham
>> >> equipment from a smoker, you would be amazed at the yellow sludge that
>> >> comes off. Will the ionizer actually remove that -- or do you still
> have
>> >> the sludge, but it just doesn't smell anymore?
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >> Carter K8VT
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