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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:37:52 -0500
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John,

You can kill stuff with ozone...so you can purify air and water that way of
biological stuff....but you can't let it get out of course.

But general air cleaning, by low concentrations of ozone...I seriously think
those are oversold


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT


> Ok I admit it I am a knuckle dragger ... Is that how Ionizers made to
clean
> air work by creating Ozone ?   John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
>
>
> > I'm not Carter obviously, but yes, he is right.
> >
> > When I worked for Kodak we made copiers, and we had to massively filter
> > the
> > output cooling air
> > so that all ozone was removed.  It is law.  The studies show that ozone
is
> > harmful to your health, both short term and also if you have chronic
> > exposure.
> >
> > I can't imagine how in hell they can sell these things.  I've often
> > wondered.  Maybe they have to limit the output.
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
> >
> >
> >> HI Carter , I took the time to reread you email a little closer.  Are
you
> >> saying that the air cleaner Ionizers are Hazardous to your health ?
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
> >> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:01 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi carter! the notebook actually smelled worse than it looked no
yellow
> >> > coating after we were finished we put our noses up to the plug
> > connections
> >> > ,
> >> > keypad , battery comp etc all smelled much much better.  John
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Carter" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
> >> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 4:19 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> John wrote:
> >> >>>  Here is a little tip we just learned. My son kc2iyg just bought a
> >> >>>  laptop computer used.  The computer was a good deal but it stunk
to
> >> >>>  high heaven from tobacco smoke .  We took a chance , he first
wiped
> >> >>>  the surface of the notebook down with a antibacterial wipe and
then
> >> >>>  he dug out a small Ionizer .  He placed the Ionizer next to the
> >> >>>  notebook and covered both with a plastic tucker tote ( a med sized
> >> >>>  trash can of sorts ) and let it do it's thing for 4 hours .  Well
he
> >> >>>  pulled the notebook out and to our surprise the smoke smell was
> >> >>>  almost completely gone !  I thought this might work with some
radios
> >> >>>  we some times  pick up for a song and the previous owner was a
> >> >>> smoker
> >> >>
> >> >> John and Mike,
> >> >> Thanks for the tip.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, I have two concerns:
> >> >>
> >> >> First, ozone from the 'Ionizer' is quite reactive. It can damage
stuff
> >> >> like rubber (to say nothing of your lungs). I have seen published
the
> >> >> fact that ozone can cause as much cell damage as gamma radiation.
> >> >> Definitely nasty stuff.
> >> >>
> >> >> Finally, is it just doing a 'superficial' job? By that I mean it may
> >> >> just be getting rid of the smell (which I realize is one of your
> > goals),
> >> >> but is it actually removing the yellow gunk that is coating the item
> >> >> in
> >> >> question? When I have scrubbed the front panel or cabinet of ham
> >> >> equipment from a smoker, you would be amazed at the yellow sludge
that
> >> >> comes off. Will the ionizer actually remove that -- or do you still

> > have
> >> >> the sludge, but it just doesn't smell anymore?
> >> >>
> >> >> 73,
> >> >> Carter K8VT
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