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Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2

To: k2xx@swva.net, tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2
From: kc9cdt@aol.com
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:43:46 -0500
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Joe,
Go back to the USB serial converter. BUT go to the hardware manager in windows 
and disable that multiport serial card first. Sounds like conflicts to 
me...also, do you have the latest windows SP 3 installed? You should at least 
have XP SP 2 installed.
Also, disconnect from the internet (cable), make sure NO other programs are 
running and disable any antivirus and firewall programs you have
Ever since Microsoft took away DIRECT serial port control in the OS we have had 
some issues with serial ports.It can be touchy now.

Some USB to serial adapters works OK others are junk.

73,
Lee



-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Giacobello <k2xx@swva.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Cc: jmiller1706@cfl.rr.com
Sent: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 9:40 am
Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2



Jim and Billy, thanks for your inputs, but I'm continuing to have both an 
exasperating and mysterious series of problems with the FW installation.

Apparently, those messages that I was receiving on the Orion screen were 
indicative of the FW code being loaded albeit at a very slow pace.  I went back 
and tried it again several times and on some occasions the transfer would stop 
at an early line and the update software would close.  The furthest I got 
before 
the transfer stopped was program flash 266.  The speed seemed to be erratic, 
but 
it was generally quite slow.  It made little difference whether I used hardware 
flow control or none and 57.6K speed or slower.  Even though I usually received 
the error message that there was no communication between update software and 
the Orion, the Orion display showed 

I am currently using a multi-serial port PCI card for serial ports.  It has 
worked flawlessly for several years with a number of different applications.  I 
tried Jim's suggestion of using a USB-to-serial adapter and his port settings, 
but there appeared to be nothing happening based on no info being displayed on 
the Orion screen.  I went back to the PCI serial port and now, unlike my 
earlier 
experiences, saw no info displayed on the screen that indicated data transfer 
(or anything else for that matter).  (So Jim's remedy may have been working, 
but 
I couldn't tell.)

Finally, I ran a serial port analyzer program and it showed that communication 
between the port and the Orion was established practically instantaneously, but 
then the data transfer slowed to a snail's pace when the update software 
started 
transferring code.  (This is when the error message about loss of communication 
is generated.  Apparently, it has slowed, but it has not stopped.)  One line of 
code was being transferred every 6-7 seconds.  I decided to allow the transfer 
to continue overnight and by this morning about half the code had been loaded 
and there are still no messages on the orion screen.

I haven't the vaguest 
idea why I'm having this problem.  It seems that most 
users have had no problems, although a small minority have had problems similar 
to mine.  I never had any problems loading Orion I FW with the same setup.  
Really mysterious.

73, Joe
K2XX



/I had the same problem, others have mentioned it also.  I finally had to buy
a cheap USB to serial converter and use it.  I suspect that something in the
latest indows version doesn't like the older serial card I was using.  I
think some folks think it may be a Windows XP or Vista problem.  But also be
sure you have your serial port set to 57600 bps, no parity, hardware flow
control.  You do this in the Windows Device Manager, under COM and LPT
ports.  

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Joe Giacobello
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:35 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2

I have just been trying to install FW 2.041XL and have major problems.  
After starting the update, I first get an error message indicating that 
there's no communication with the radio.  If I repeat the update one or 
two more times, I finally get a message on the Orion screen that says 
"Erase Flash" which then switches to "Program Flash 1."  The number in 
that message continuously increments every 10 seconds or so, but nothing 
else happens.  I can stop the numbers from incrementing by just shutting 
down the update software.  So there must be some communication between 
the software and the O2.

I've tried both master resets and RAM clears w/o any effect, and I also 
re-downloaded the FW file.  I can't even re-install the original FW.  
Never had problems updating the original Orion.

Anyone seen anything similar or have any thoughts on what might be going on?/

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