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Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2

To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2
From: "John" <brazos@rochester.rr.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:59:53 -0500
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can't you just try them all ?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jmiller1706@cfl.rr.com>
To: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" 
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2


>I also moved to another COM port, so I'm not sure if that solved the 
>problem or it was something else.  Eventually set the USB adaptor to COM3 
>if I remember correctly.  Try setting it to another unused COM port.
>
> ---- Ron Castro <ronc@sonic.net> wrote:
>> This still sounds like a COM port problem in the computer.  I have been
>> using a USB to serial port converter for a couple of years and it has 
>> worked
>> perfectly on the my Orion II, a friend's 'original' v. 1x Orion, my old
>> TS-870, plus numerous other devices.
>>
>> FWIW, I found that all USB-to-serial converters are based on two 
>> different
>> chips...one seems to work all the time and the other is flakey, but I 
>> don't
>> know which one is which!  What I do know is that the one made by "Cables 
>> To
>> Go" works for me every time, so I bought four of them and keep one
>> everywhere I think I might need one.
>>
>> BTW, I use this on a Sony P-4 laptop with XP Pro.
>>
>>          Ron  N6IE
>>       www.N6IE.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joe Giacobello" <k2xx@swva.net>
>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Cc: <jmiller1706@cfl.rr.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2
>>
>>
>> > Jim and Billy, thanks for your inputs, but I'm continuing to have both 
>> > an
>> > exasperating and mysterious series of problems with the FW 
>> > installation.
>> >
>> > Apparently, those messages that I was receiving on the Orion screen 
>> > were
>> > indicative of the FW code being loaded albeit at a very slow pace.  I 
>> > went
>> > back and tried it again several times and on some occasions the 
>> > transfer
>> > would stop at an early line and the update software would close.  The
>> > furthest I got before the transfer stopped was program flash 266.  The
>> > speed seemed to be erratic, but it was generally quite slow.  It made
>> > little difference whether I used hardware flow control or none and 
>> > 57.6K
>> > speed or slower.  Even though I usually received the error message that
>> > there was no communication between update software and the Orion, the
>> > Orion display showed
>> >
>> > I am currently using a multi-serial port PCI card for serial ports.  It
>> > has worked flawlessly for several years with a number of different
>> > applications.  I tried Jim's suggestion of using a USB-to-serial 
>> > adapter
>> > and his port settings, but there appeared to be nothing happening based 
>> > on
>> > no info being displayed on the Orion screen.  I went back to the PCI
>> > serial port and now, unlike my earlier experiences, saw no info 
>> > displayed
>> > on the screen that indicated data transfer (or anything else for that
>> > matter).  (So Jim's remedy may have been working, but I couldn't tell.)
>> >
>> > Finally, I ran a serial port analyzer program and it showed that
>> > communication between the port and the Orion was established 
>> > practically
>> > instantaneously, but then the data transfer slowed to a snail's pace 
>> > when
>> > the update software started transferring code.  (This is when the error
>> > message about loss of communication is generated.  Apparently, it has
>> > slowed, but it has not stopped.)  One line of code was being 
>> > transferred
>> > every 6-7 seconds.  I decided to allow the transfer to continue 
>> > overnight
>> > and by this morning about half the code had been loaded and there are
>> > still no messages on the orion screen.
>> >
>> > I haven't the vaguest idea why I'm having this problem.  It seems that
>> > most users have had no problems, although a small minority have had
>> > problems similar to mine.  I never had any problems loading Orion I FW
>> > with the same setup.  Really mysterious.
>> >
>> > 73, Joe
>> > K2XX
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > /I had the same problem, others have mentioned it also.  I finally had 
>> > to
>> > buy
>> > a cheap USB to serial converter and use it.  I suspect that something 
>> > in
>> > the
>> > latest indows version doesn't like the older serial card I was using. 
>> > I
>> > think some folks think it may be a Windows XP or Vista problem.  But 
>> > also
>> > be
>> > sure you have your serial port set to 57600 bps, no parity, hardware 
>> > flow
>> > control.  You do this in the Windows Device Manager, under COM and LPT
>> > ports.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
>> > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Joe Giacobello
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:35 PM
>> > To: tentec@contesting.com
>> > Subject: [TenTec] FW Update Problem w/O2
>> >
>> > I have just been trying to install FW 2.041XL and have major problems.
>> > After starting the update, I first get an error message indicating that
>> > there's no communication with the radio.  If I repeat the update one or
>> > two more times, I finally get a message on the Orion screen that says
>> > "Erase Flash" which then switches to "Program Flash 1."  The number in
>> > that message continuously increments every 10 seconds or so, but 
>> > nothing
>> > else happens.  I can stop the numbers from incrementing by just 
>> > shutting
>> > down the update software.  So there must be some communication between
>> > the software and the O2.
>> >
>> > I've tried both master resets and RAM clears w/o any effect, and I also
>> > re-downloaded the FW file.  I can't even re-install the original FW.
>> > Never had problems updating the original Orion.
>> >
>> > Anyone seen anything similar or have any thoughts on what might be 
>> > going
>> > on?/
>> >
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