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Re: [TenTec] High stability frequency reference oscillator for theOrion

To: Ron Castro <ronc@sonic.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] High stability frequency reference oscillator for theOrion II
From: Linwood Davis <linbdavis@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:05:44 -0500
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Hi Ron,

I did get a firm quote of $135 each for 10 pieces, with a 12 week lead time!

You had a concern about the output. I asked for the LVCMOS output option to make it a little simpler, however some care is still needed.

I checked the markings on the oscillator in my O II and found DFA18 HA, not the Siward part! And I can't find a data sheet for it but I am fairly certain that it was made by Fordahl.

Yeah, power may have to be provided externally. I wasn't considering this at first, but keeping it warm all the time would be good. Let's see... the warm-up drift is 0.1ppm, or 1.4 hz on 20 meters. And the max. draw during warm-up is 3.6 W, roughly 3/4 amps at 5V. Not sure if we can pull this from the O II somewhere...

Anyway, this may all be for naught, since there are still too few who are interested. Don't really want to shell out $1350 + shipping to make it happen.

Lin,
WB1AIW

Ron Castro wrote:
I would be very interested in participating, and yes, I believe the "original" Orion used the same oscillator. While the mod on my website mitigates the problem considerably, it can't really cure it. Looking at the spec sheet of the AOCJY, it appears to be available in the correct operating voltage, excellent phase noise. The sine wave output is shown at +2 dBm @ 50 Ohms output load while the original shows 1 V P-P into 10 k Ohms. This should probably be looked into. Here are the specs of the Siward (I just noticed my website link needs to be changed):

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/TXO32-datasheet.html

Another minor problem is that the AOCJY appears to be an SMT device, so some sort of PC board would need to be designed to convert the architecture. That would be good though since the AOCJY accommodates an external adjustment pot that should make calibration a breeze. Also because since its an oven-controlled device, an external 5 or 3.3 VDC regulator/filter will be needed along with a direct connection to 13.6 VDC so the oven stays on when the power switch is off.

BTW...did you ever notice that most new Orions are 20 Hz off frequency on 20 Meters? I heard that regularly on the TT Sunday net when I first started checking in. That's apparently because when they are adjusted at the factory, the radio is upside down with the cover off and the compartment is at room temp. Normally that compartment gets to over 100 degrees F without the fan mod!

A friendly call to TT might be in order to see if these specs will work, and once done, you should have no trouble finding ten folks who want go in.

            Ron  N6IE
       www.N6IE.com



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