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Re: [TenTec] Amp Hot Switching Prevention

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Amp Hot Switching Prevention
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net>
Reply-to: geraldj@weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:57:37 -0600
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I can think of at least a couple solutions. One is to create a high external ALC voltage that decays 50 milliseconds after PTT arrives. It might be possible in some software to delay the tones, but I suspect the rig blaster can be creating PTT from the presence of the tone. It might need a different option to separate the sources of tone and PTT.

The box cure is to look up W1GHZ.com and his sequencer. This is a standard problem at VHF and microwaves with transverters and such. Typically a sequencer (and there have been several schematics published in QEX and proceedings of VHF conferences and Microwave Update Conferences over the past two decades), is started by the external PTT which then switches the antenna relay, then after a selected wait, keys the PA, then the transverter, then after all the relays have seated it applies PTT to the exciter. Does it in reverse to go back to receive so no relays get keyed hot, no exciter power hits a delicate tranverter or antenna mounted preamp.

Last I knew, WA3IAC sold kits for the W1GHZ sequencer kit. Direct or on epay. I bought one last year that I've not yet used, but I will probably need more in time.

Links:
http://www.w1ghz.org/small_proj/sequencer_V2.pdf

http://www.qsl.net/wa3iac/kits/

Or one can install auxiliary contacts (such as a microswitch) on the PA relays and wire them in series with the PTT signal from the rig blaster so the PA relays have to seat before connecting PTT to the exciter. Since the PA was built without provisions for those controlling contacts, the timed sequencer is what works.

73, Jerry, K0CQ


On 3/22/2010 6:36 PM, Gary Hoffman wrote:
Hi All,

I'm having a new (to me) problem with one of my rig/amp combinations.

I've begun using my Corsair II with my SB-200 amp in some digital modes -
mostly RTTY of course.

These rigs were not meant for digital service nor computer control of
course.

What I have is a rigblaster, and I use a serial port from the computer to
both send the digitaal data and the PTT signal to
the Corsair through the Mic Jack - in the well known manner.

The Corsair switches the amp into transmit through its key line.

Unfortunately the rigblaster sends data and PTT to the corsair together, at
the same instant.

Thus when the amp relay is being switched - the corsair is already
outputting RF.  Hot switching the amp in that fashion
allows 1 kw of power to see momentarily an open circuit, as the amp relay
has not yet reliably closed the contacts to the antenna.
This does a LOT of damage !!!

I'm sure others have run into this.

What are people doing ?  Some other external control box I don't know about
?  Somehow delaying the production of tones in the
rig control software ( I'm using N1MM) ?

I'd appreciate any useful ideas.

73 de Gary, AA2IZ



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