Isn't the idea of noise reduction to reduce noise and not create noise?
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> 1. 9420 power supply (Harry Coates)
> 2. Re: 9420 power supply (Phil Chambley Sr.)
> 3. Re: 9420 power supply (Phil Chambley Sr.)
> 4. Re: 9420 power supply (Martin Ewing)
> 5. Re: new firmware (Steven Kline)
> 6. Re: 9420 power supply (Steven Kline)
> 7. bug in firmware 2.043B, at least I think so (Rick Borken)
> 8. New software (Gene Henderson)
> 9. Orion 2 Firmware 2.043B Released (Dennis Duffin)
> 10. Ten-Tec Paragon & Icom PW-1 Amp?.. (Jeffrey M. Swiger)
> 11. Re: New software (Troy W6HV)
> 12. Re: 9420 power supply (Phil Chambley Sr.)
> 13. Re: 9420 power supply (Jim Brown K9YC)
> 14. New software (Harry G McGavran Jr)
> 15. WTB: Century 22 or 21 (Jerry Kitterman)
> 16. Re: New software (Ron Castro)
> 17. Re: New software (Rsoifer@aol.com)
> 18. Sidetone in v. 2.043B? (Rick Borken)
> 19. Re: Sidetone in v. 2.043B? (Ron Castro)
> 20. Re: Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D (Kris Merschrod)
> 21. Re: Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D
> (Dr. Gerald N. Johnson)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:08:31 -0400
>From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1@charter.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <0513BF8BC3994DF7BB72248BFF33EC74@DUKE5>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>Good afternoon to all,
>
>Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine took a
>BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the ac line
>fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced the fuse and
>had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>
>Harry
>
> WA8HC1@charter.net
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:52:07 -0400
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <06D65266E9D34571BBC620E6D52115A3@sparky>
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>Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>
>Phil C. Sr.
>k4dpk
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1@charter.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>
>
>> Good afternoon to all,
>>
>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the
>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced
>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> WA8HC1@charter.net
>> _______________________________________________
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>Message: 3
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:49:32 -0400
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <060D7A194B5A428AB3FE8A79B06A02B9@sparky>
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>I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I owe
>the group an apology.
>
>It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>Harry out to the entire group.
>
>I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>happened before.
>
>Phil C. Sr.
>k4dpk
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>
>
>> Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>>
>> Phil C. Sr.
>> k4dpk
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1@charter.net>
>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>> Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>
>>
>>> Good afternoon to all,
>>>
>>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the
>>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced
>>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> WA8HC1@charter.net
>>> _______________________________________________
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>Message: 4
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:57:20 -0400
>From: Martin Ewing <martin.s.ewing@gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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>Phil,
>
>You must be new here? ;-)
>
>These mistakes happen all the time. I recommend that people not apologize
>unless something damaging or very personal was said. Expressions of
>sympathy are not like that -- maybe we need more of them! Of course, it's
>best if we do check who we're sending email to each time...
>
>Have a good weekend, everyone.
>
>73
>Martin
>AA6E
>
>On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. <k4dpk@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I owe
>> the group an apology.
>>
>> It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>> Harry out to the entire group.
>>
>> I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>> least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>> happened before.
>>
>> Phil C. Sr.
>> k4dpk
>>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:58:27 -0500
>From: Steven Kline <skline4@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] new firmware
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4013A09A-FCEE-42C0-BFCF-27398B550A89@verizon.net>
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>Yes John, I observed the same.
>
>Additionally, I noticed that all of the settings for my microphone ( Ten Tec
>Studio) required much different adjustment than the earlier load that I was
>running (2.041XL). With the new load I must run the settings much higher than
>before to accomplish close to the same. For example the hardware microphone
>gain, in the menu, I am now running at 4 and the mic gain control on the radio
>(front) I seem to need as high as 70-75 to get enough audio drive (verses
>around 50 in previous load), this is without the speech processor turned on.
>I have my ssb lower rolloff set at 240 hz and xmit bandwidth at 2700. I
>thought my audio sounded better through the headphones on the earlier version.
> Audio is sort of a tough one to judge without putting it on a spectral scope
>as it is so subjective to most ears. Some will hear it and say it sounds
>great and two minutes later another will break in and tell you it is the worse
>audio they have ever heard, LOL.
>
>Looking forward to hearing a bit more data and information on both the NR
>distortion and the seemingly higher audio drive required for this load.
>
>73 - Steve W5JK
>
>
>
>On Jun 4, 2010, at 1:33 PM, John Molenda wrote:
>
>> New firm ware : Any one notice a improvement in there speech processor ?
>> Mine is now usable up to 5 with very little distortion before I was limited
>> to around 2 . John kb2huk
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>Message: 6
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:35:27 -0500
>From: Steven Kline <skline4@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <C56F56AF-3981-41DD-A52D-5A4EB6D30F44@verizon.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>Comment "Off Subject".
>
>Gosh Phil, I don't see why there is a need for an apology. I have been
>monitoring this list for years and seldom comment, mostly listen. However,
>reading your response below and Harry's earlier message, I take exception to
>that request. Toss the email in the used bit bucket and don't be so hard on
>yourself, life is too short. The majority of us have all hit the send key too
>soon at least one time before realizing it was headed to an unintended
>audience. I sure didn't observe or incur any hardship from such a trivial
>mistake, and see nothing offensive that would necessitate/demand a public
>apology - good grief. Maybe the reminder you received from the "outgoing
>member" was just meant to be a poke at a little fun and humor.
>
>And, good luck to Harry on the power supply. Please be safe.
>
>Steve - W5JK
>
>
>On Jun 4, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
>
>> I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I owe
>> the group an apology.
>>
>> It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>> Harry out to the entire group.
>>
>> I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>> least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>> happened before.
>>
>> Phil C. Sr.
>> k4dpk
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>
>>
>>> Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>>>
>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>> k4dpk
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1@charter.net>
>>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good afternoon to all,
>>>>
>>>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>>>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of the
>>>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet?? Replaced
>>>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>>>
>>>> Harry
>>>>
>>>> WA8HC1@charter.net
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:54:46 -0500
>From: "Rick Borken" <rickb@cpinternet.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] bug in firmware 2.043B, at least I think so
>To: "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <1F7D942D60854C829997D8C27472421A@RadioDesktop>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
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>
>I am pretty sure I have found a bug in the new firmware release.
>
>I use the four USER memories to store various parameters for different
>modes. In particular, I use USER1, 2, 3 and 4 for CW, RTTY, SSB and PSK
>respectively. For each mode, I use different values of BW. It appears that
>the USER memories do not set the BW value to the setting stored in the
>USER memory, but the BW value remains unchanged.
>
>For example, I use USER1 for CW, and I stored a BW value of 100 Hz in USER1.
>I use USER2 for RTTY, and I use a BW value of 250 Hz in USER2. But if I have
>BW set to 100 HZ and push USER2, the BW value does not change to 250 HZ, but
>it remains at 100 Hz. This is not the behavior I observed in earlier
>releases.
>
>73, Rick K0XB
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:37:35 -0400
>From: "Gene Henderson" <wb9hla@comcast.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <6F02543F51984CCAA5CB60CC94DBA456@GenePC6120>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Sorry Guys ,
>Going back to the old version 2.039 trying to work the MUSEUM SHIPS WEEKEND
>EVENT and so much distortion and popping cannot not hear. The noise reduction
>needs some work. I thought this one was going to be the one, but I will need
>to wait a little longer longer.
>
>Gene WB9HLA
>
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>
>Message: 9
>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:34:21 -0500
>From: "Dennis Duffin" <duffind@verizon.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] Orion 2 Firmware 2.043B Released
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <D8FDAB3432954469952FD20CE144F623@denny>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>I have downloaded the update but actually seems noisier than previous
>releases and the NR distortion is pretty bad. Will give it a little more of
>a test drive before heading back to the old version
>
>
>
>73, Dennis W5UV
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 10
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 00:28:00 -0400
>From: "Jeffrey M. Swiger" <N8NOE@ARRL.Net>
>Subject: [TenTec] Ten-Tec Paragon & Icom PW-1 Amp?..
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <0A9AF4CB-3487-40F5-953D-617B8FB8F931@ARRL.Net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Hi All, Been a While since I posted..
>I just got a Ten-Tec Paragon in from a Trade and was thinking of connecting it
>to the PW-1..
>ANYONE done this?..
>
>The Ten-Tec has TX EN/TX OUT..
>The TX out: Provides a Closure to Ground thru an open collector Transitor to
>ground whenever the Paragon is in Transmit Mode.
>No more Specs I find in the Manual I have?
>
>Is this the Thing Needed on the PW-1's
>SEND Control Jack's?...
>
>In Reading, it seems the PW-1 needs the Ground, but Gives Specs of
>MAX. Control: 5.0V DC / 0.1A
>Ground Level: -0.5 to 0.8V DC
>
>If I read RIGHT, if the Paragon Can Ground this, all is good?..
>I Really Need some advice on this one..
>
>Jeff-N8NOE
>N8NOE at ARRL dot NET
>can get me direct..
>
>THANKS!........
>
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>
>Message: 11
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:41:08 -0700
>From: "Troy W6HV" <w6hv@verizon.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] New software
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <7EB61A7AF95A470E8F31A83FFB459F62@HAL3>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
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>Same for me. I tried to run a net today and had to fight the gain, NR
>levels, etc. Going back to 2.039.
>
>Troy, W6HV
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Gene Henderson" <wb9hla@comcast.net>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:37 PM
>To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>
>> Sorry Guys ,
>> Going back to the old version 2.039 trying to work the MUSEUM SHIPS
>> WEEKEND EVENT and so much distortion and popping cannot not hear. The
>> noise reduction needs some work. I thought this one was going to be the
>> one, but I will need to wait a little longer longer.
>>
>> Gene WB9HLA
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 12
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 23:38:23 -0400
>From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <87C02CC87F75435D826B7D7C3196EA51@sparky>
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>
>Sorry Steve....
>
>I guess I forgot the sarcastrophe.
>
>:)
>
>Phil C. Sr.
>k4dpk
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven Kline" <skline4@verizon.net>
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 6:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>
>
>> Comment "Off Subject".
>>
>> Gosh Phil, I don't see why there is a need for an apology. I have been
>> monitoring this list for years and seldom comment, mostly listen.
>> However, reading your response below and Harry's earlier message, I take
>> exception to that request. Toss the email in the used bit bucket and
>> don't be so hard on yourself, life is too short. The majority of us have
>> all hit the send key too soon at least one time before realizing it was
>> headed to an unintended audience. I sure didn't observe or incur any
>> hardship from such a trivial mistake, and see nothing offensive that would
>> necessitate/demand a public apology - good grief. Maybe the reminder you
>> received from the "outgoing member" was just meant to be a poke at a
>> little fun and humor.
>>
>> And, good luck to Harry on the power supply. Please be safe.
>>
>> Steve - W5JK
>>
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
>>
>>> I have been reminded by one of the more "outgoing" of the group that I
>>> owe
>>> the group an apology.
>>>
>>> It was not my intention to send what I thought was a private comment to
>>> Harry out to the entire group.
>>>
>>> I am deeply sorry for the inconvenience I'm sure it must have caused at
>>> least one of you. I'm frankly surprised this sort of thing has never
>>> happened before.
>>>
>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>> k4dpk
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ouch! Sorry to hear that Harry.
>>>>
>>>> Phil C. Sr.
>>>> k4dpk
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Harry Coates" <WA8HC1@charter.net>
>>>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:08 PM
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon to all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?? Mine
>>>>> took a BIG line surge in a BIG storm last weekend.. Vaporized one of
>>>>> the
>>>>> ac line fuses, and caused some damage?? Not sure how much yet??
>>>>> Replaced
>>>>> the fuse and had a little smoke test!! Just forgot to unplug it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry
>>>>>
>>>>> WA8HC1@charter.net
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>>> TenTec@contesting.com
>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:49:12 -0700
>From: "Jim Brown K9YC" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 power supply
>To: "tentec@contesting.com" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <20100605064918.356F258BBF@gw1.nlenet.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:08:31 -0400, Harry Coates wrote:
>
>>Would anyone happen to have a 9420 ps they're not using anymore?
>
>I've never owned one, but my Hercules II runs quite well from any good
>solid power supply that puts out 14V at 80-90A. My first solution was a
>pair of Astron RS70s, each dedicated to half of the outputs. The power
>plug is wired so that is quite easy to do. The RS70s have a voltage
>sense terminal that allows them to be strapped together, and I use it.
>
>My second solution is a big switching power supply that a friend gave
>me after I loaned him the Herc II to take on a DXpedition. It's a LOT
>smaller and a LOT less weight, but with enough output to run the amp at
>full power. He used it on the DXpedition, and gave it to me when he
>returned the amp.
>
>A third solution I've seen folks use is to run the amp from a big 12V
>battery that is float-charged by a well regulated supply big enough to
>keep the battery charged with the TX duty cycle. I've done this with my
>transceivers for years. AA7JV, who, with HA7RY runs VERY good 2-man
>DXpeditions to remote islands, used six 12V car batteries and float
>charger to run his 500W amp for nearly a month. Because the power
>supply was relatively small, they were able to run their small 1.5kW
>Honda generator in economy mode, and got by with a ridiculously small
>amount of gas. That was critical, because they were on a very small
>boat. See http://www.tx3a.com/ I met George, AA7JV, in Dayton and
>heard his presentation about the trip.
>
>73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 14
>Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 09:03:22 -0600
>From: Harry G McGavran Jr <w5pny@arrl.net>
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <20100605150322.62EA91A986A@localhost.localdomain>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>There are a number of things I like about 2.043B -- one seems to be
>that the CAT interface seems a tab more robust. I might just be
>dreaming it, but I've written a number of programs for my Orion II
>that use the CAT interface and one problem has always been that
>if one is sending a long sequence of commands that don't generate
>responses to the Orion, some of the commands are not executed
>by the Orion. Increasing the delay between commands helps, the
>the delays required seem to vary in not so predictable ways.
>That problem SEEMS to be better than with 2.039d.
>
>BUT -- I really really dislike to new NR algorithm -- particularly
>as it affects the side-tone, even with the NR off. After a couple
>days of operating with 2.043B, I finally had enough and went
>back to 2.039d. It seems to me the new NR algorithm is doing things
>even when NR is off... I hope the next release either reverts to
>the old NR algorithm or gives the user a choice of which one he wants.
>In any case, the side-tone is atrocious unless kept at very low levels
>and/or NR is invoked at fairly high levels. For those of us in
>very quiet locations, that drives me nuts.
>
> 73,
> Harry, W5PNY
>
>
>
>--
>
>Harry G. McGavran, Jr.
>
>E-mail: w5pny@arrl.net
>
>
>
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>Message: 15
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:49:19 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jerry Kitterman <jerry.kitterman53@yahoo.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] WTB: Century 22 or 21
>To: TenTec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <961895.11357.qm@web111215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>Looking to buy a Century 22 with no issues or possibly a C21. Best price
>shipped to Indiana, 47119.
>Jerry? W9JLK
>
>
>
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>Message: 16
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:56:39 -0700
>From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] New software
>To: <w5pny@arrl.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
> <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <4D51ACB36EC149D6A706294BE4268853@RonPC>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
>Harry: I have been unable to duplicate the problem you're describing. Are
>you using headphones and do you have the Sub RX audio routed to the left and
>right and right phones? Do you hear any difference when you use just Main
>routed to the phones? Also, what side-tone frequency are you using and
>where is your CW Rise/Fall time set? I found that all of these thing effect
>the sound of the side-tone in one way or another.
>
> Ron N6IE
> www.N6IE.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harry G McGavran Jr" <w5pny@arrl.net>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:03 AM
>Subject: [TenTec] New software
>
>
>>
>> There are a number of things I like about 2.043B -- one seems to be
>> that the CAT interface seems a tab more robust. I might just be
>> dreaming it, but I've written a number of programs for my Orion II
>> that use the CAT interface and one problem has always been that
>> if one is sending a long sequence of commands that don't generate
>> responses to the Orion, some of the commands are not executed
>> by the Orion. Increasing the delay between commands helps, the
>> the delays required seem to vary in not so predictable ways.
>> That problem SEEMS to be better than with 2.039d.
>>
>> BUT -- I really really dislike to new NR algorithm -- particularly
>> as it affects the side-tone, even with the NR off. After a couple
>> days of operating with 2.043B, I finally had enough and went
>> back to 2.039d. It seems to me the new NR algorithm is doing things
>> even when NR is off... I hope the next release either reverts to
>> the old NR algorithm or gives the user a choice of which one he wants.
>> In any case, the side-tone is atrocious unless kept at very low levels
>> and/or NR is invoked at fairly high levels. For those of us in
>> very quiet locations, that drives me nuts.
>>
>> 73,
>> Harry, W5PNY
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Harry G. McGavran, Jr.
>>
>> E-mail: w5pny@arrl.net
>>
>>
>>
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>Message: 17
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:34:56 EDT
>From: Rsoifer@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] New software
>To: w5pny@arrl.net, tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <62713.35f35ea0.393be4c0@aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I see that T-T has posted a comment about the NR. My own experience, that
>using a high setting of NR (9) and an AGC slope of 1:10 reduces the popping
> and distortion, is in line with their comment. However, it still seems to
> me that the new NR needs some more "fine tuning."
>
>I've set the sidetone level to 30 and it sounds pretty good with my 400 Hz
>tone.
>
>73,
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 6/5/2010 3:03:23 P.M. GMT Standard Time, w5pny@arrl.net
>writes:
>
>
>There are a number of things I like about 2.043B -- one seems to be
>that the CAT interface seems a tab more robust. I might just be
>dreaming it, but I've written a number of programs for my Orion II
>that use the CAT interface and one problem has always been that
>if one is sending a long sequence of commands that don't generate
>responses to the Orion, some of the commands are not executed
>by the Orion. Increasing the delay between commands helps, the
>the delays required seem to vary in not so predictable ways.
>That problem SEEMS to be better than with 2.039d.
>
>BUT -- I really really dislike to new NR algorithm -- particularly
>as it affects the side-tone, even with the NR off. After a couple
>days of operating with 2.043B, I finally had enough and went
>back to 2.039d. It seems to me the new NR algorithm is doing things
>even when NR is off... I hope the next release either reverts to
>the old NR algorithm or gives the user a choice of which one he wants.
>In any case, the side-tone is atrocious unless kept at very low levels
>and/or NR is invoked at fairly high levels. For those of us in
>very quiet locations, that drives me nuts.
>
>73,
>Harry, W5PNY
>
>
>
>--
>
>Harry G. McGavran, Jr.
>
>E-mail: w5pny@arrl.net
>
>
>
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>Message: 18
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:09:45 -0500
>From: "Rick Borken" <rickb@cpinternet.com>
>Subject: [TenTec] Sidetone in v. 2.043B?
>To: "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <F8F824CE029F4115963444A2699C5475@RadioDesktop>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> reply-type=original
>
>Does anyone else feel the sidetone in the new firmware has a unusual "mushy"
>sound or seem almost like there's a faint echo? It also sounds to me as
>though the volume of the tone gets louder in the first few fractions of a
>second. I know this is a very subjective thing, but the sidetone just does
>not sound pleasant to me. In the past, the sidetone always seemed crisp and
>clean.
>
>73, Rick K0XB
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 19
>Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:16:09 -0700
>From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Sidetone in v. 2.043B?
>To: "Rick Borken" <rickb@cpinternet.com>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec
> Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <427B1592E1574F939966966B321D4B70@RonPC>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
>Try listening with just the Main routed to the headphones, then compare with
>the "Both" setting. Also the CW rise-time setting the CW menu effects the
>sidetone sound. I think the difference is that "Both" is the default
>setting when you install the new firmware.
>
> Ron N6IE
> www.N6IE.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Borken" <rickb@cpinternet.com>
>To: "Ten-Tec Reflector" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:09 AM
>Subject: [TenTec] Sidetone in v. 2.043B?
>
>
>> Does anyone else feel the sidetone in the new firmware has a unusual
>> "mushy"
>> sound or seem almost like there's a faint echo? It also sounds to me as
>> though the volume of the tone gets louder in the first few fractions of a
>> second. I know this is a very subjective thing, but the sidetone just does
>> not sound pleasant to me. In the past, the sidetone always seemed crisp
>> and
>> clean.
>>
>> 73, Rick K0XB
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>Message: 20
>Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:18:41 -0400
>From: "Kris Merschrod" <Kris@merschrod.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D
>To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>Message-ID: <71B3B742464245699CC82EFA1AEF4F0B@Staples0258PC>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
> reply-type=original
>
>Good afternoon,
>
>The problem seems to have been the input filter, exactly why I have not
>figured out. I pulled that filter and put a jumper in its place and "bingo"
>no SWR on 40 (or the other bands) and full power out as it should.
>
>The "PI" filter (actually is more complicated than a PI - it has a third
>inductor and Capacitor to ground tapped from the middle of the inductor part
>of the PI. I imagine that part is designed to pull certain higher
>frequencies to ground.
>
>Now I want to modify it so that it will OP on 10 and 12 Meters. Has anyone
>gone through this MOD?
>
>Kris KM2KM
>
>Merschrod
>123 Warren Road
>Ithaca, NY 14850
>www.merschrod.net
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 21
>Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:43:12 -0500
>From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten-Tec 411 Centaur Amp Problem S-O-L-V-E-D
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Message-ID: <4C0A9AC0.6070409@weather.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>I presume that TenTec has an FCC approved mod given out only to licensed
>hams that substitutes a different filter or your jumper. That series
>tuned trap in the present filter is probably resonant at 27 MHz to be
>sure it can't be driven easily on that band. The book also says the
>plate tank needs a modification for 10m. FCC rules preclude making that
>information generally available. Tentec may have to see a copy of your
>license.
>
>The scematic shows a pi while there are three coils in the pictures.
>
>Time to call tentec.
>
>73, Jerry, K0CQ
>
>On 6/5/2010 1:18 PM, Kris Merschrod wrote:
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> The problem seems to have been the input filter, exactly why I have not
>> figured out. I pulled that filter and put a jumper in its place and "bingo"
>> no SWR on 40 (or the other bands) and full power out as it should.
>>
>> The "PI" filter (actually is more complicated than a PI - it has a third
>> inductor and Capacitor to ground tapped from the middle of the inductor part
>> of the PI. I imagine that part is designed to pull certain higher
>> frequencies to ground.
>>
>> Now I want to modify it so that it will OP on 10 and 12 Meters. Has anyone
>> gone through this MOD?
>>
>> Kris KM2KM
>>
>> Merschrod
>> 123 Warren Road
>> Ithaca, NY 14850
>> www.merschrod.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>
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