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| Subject: | Re: [TenTec] SLIGHTLY OT |
| From: | "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net> |
| Reply-to: | geraldj@weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com> |
| Date: | Fri, 08 Apr 2011 16:54:14 -0500 |
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Yah it gives consistent numbers but NEC2 and NEC4 are distinctly bad
about working with close spacings. MININEC does better but its not
perfect either. In the May/June 1989 issue of QEX Cebik compared the
three to real world measurements in an article titled: "NEC-4.1:
Limitations of importance to hams." Subtitled: "Antenna modeling seems
deceptively easy. Come tour the pitfalls of the latest software." Pages
3 to 16. The next article in the same issue was by the authors of
MININEC titled; "Wire Modeling Limitations of NEC and MININEC for
Windows." Subtitled: "Come listen to the authors of MININEC as they
describe its workings and compare it to NEC-4." Pages 17 to 21.
On 4/8/2011 4:27 PM, Steve Hunt wrote: On 08/04/2011 22:01, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson wrote:Careful about the EZNEC model for impedance. None of the NEC models do coupling to the earth. Their earth model is only used for reflections for the elevation pattern.No - it also uses the earth model to generate feedpoint impedances. You only have to see the effect that soil type has on the impedance to realise that is true. You need to be careful with verticals and associated ground systems where it has some shortcomings, but it's pretty good on the impedance of horizontal dipoles and derivitives down to heights of 0.005 lambda.On my Smith chart slide rule, that 11-j930 a long ways from the low R side of the chart spins over a quarter wave to about 4 + j2.75 though the resistive component is practically on the outside edge of the chart.I don't trust my Smith chart for those extreme impedances; I suggest you don't either because it's giving you the wrong answer - your reactive component is grossly in error. Much easier to use the simple maths for a quarter-wave transformation: Zin = Zo*Zo/Zload = 600*600/(11 - j930) = 4.6 + j386 73, Steve G3TXQ 73, Jerry, K0CQ |
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