I'm wondering what disk drives and old magazines have to do with ten-tec
equipment. Just saying... Jim n4be
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> 2. Re: OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc. (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
> 3. Orion s-meter calibration (Barry N1EU)
> 4. Re: Orion s-meter calibration (Carl Moreschi)
> 5. Re: OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc. (denton)
> 6. Re: OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc. (Don Allen)
> 7. Re: Orion s-meter calibration (Ron Castro)
> 8. WTB: Model 253 Auto Tuner (Steve)
> 9. Re: OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc. (Jim WA9YSD)
> 10. Re: OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc. (AL7CR)
> 11. Re: Orion s-meter calibration (AL7CR)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:05:02 +0100
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Ah... yes... But, I, also, have a finite life and from
> what I read I will be gone, or lose my memory,
> long before my CDs lose their memory.
>
> James, WRONG, DANGEROUSLY WRONG!
>
> CD and DVD medial are similar to disk drives when it comes to failing.
> MOST of them may outlive you, but that does NOT mean ALL of them will.
> The failure rate is quite low (I don't have the latest spec in my head for
> magnetic optical), but enough of them do fail that you should be concerned
> and if you value your data, take this very serious. (Less important for
> archived multi-medial data).
>
> With disk drives, I can quote the spec since I worked for the world's
> largest disk drive manufacturer until I retired 8 months ago. With an
> annualized failure rate of 99.7%, you have a huge chance that if you buy a
> new disk drive, your data will be safe on it for 5 years (the design EOL of
> the drives). That does not mean that the drives won't live longer; it just
> means "how and when they die" after that time period is not factored in to
> the AFR spec.
>
> Most of us feel comfortable with new drives; we "think" our data is safe.
> Well I've spent an awful lot of time trying to help some of the 0.3% of the
> customers who lost data on relatively new drives and were foolish enough
> (interpret that to be stupid enough) to think they did not need a backup
> copy of their important data.
>
> It's no different with CDs or DVDs.
> The thing about it is, since this media is usually used for archive copies
> of data which most people will never access again in their lives, most
> people who have lost data never even realize that they have lost it because
> they never had the need to attempt to access the particular file which was
> lost.
>
> When I say "lose data", I don't mean the entire CD or DVD will fail. What
> we're talking about here is called "drop out" - where a few bad spots on the
> media cause the data, perhaps just a few bits, to deteriorate to the point
> that it can no longer be read. Usually it's just a block or two that
> failed, but that particular file is gone. And Murphy will probably make
> sure it was a block in the middle of the most important file (the one that
> confirms you don't owe your ex-XYL any money) that will fail!
>
> Here is something to think about:
>
> QUESTION: With the reliability of disk drives (and DVDs) being so good
> today, do I still need to back up all of my data.
>
> ANSWER: NO! (you only need to back up the data which you wish to keep)
> (-:
>
> I intentionally put a smiley face in there because I receive a retirement
> pension from a storage company!
>
> AND MY FINAL POINT IS:
> There is a HUGE difference between losing data in a multi-media file (music
> or video), and losing data in a data file. If you lose data in a video, you
> probably will just have a lost frame, which the eye will not even see; worst
> case the screen flickers once or twice. But if the lost block of data is in
> the middle of your archived copy of your tax returns for 2008, and the IRS
> decides to audit your last 5 years, you're hosed.
>
> 73
> Rick, DJ0IP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Richards
>
> My wife claims I have lost my mind already !
> (no smiley face... because it is TRUE !)
>
> --> I sure can't argue that point, James! (-;
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:36:48 +0100
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000e01ccc79f$b865f980$2931ec80$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> PLEASE LET ME CLARIFY ONE POINT AND APOLOGIZE FOR MAYBE OFFENDING SOME
> PEOPLE...
>
> When I said in my post below "stupid enough" I was ONLY referring to people
> who do not back up data on hard drives, not to people who do not keep
> multiple copies of CDs or DVD.
>
> It is not a well know fact that CDs and DVDs suffer from drop out. Most
> consumers still rely on the original STRONG marketing message that data
> would be safe for 25 years on these media. It is unfortunate, but the
> manufactures never came out and publically warned people, once it was
> learned that you probably will lose data within 25 years.
>
> With [hard] disk drives, it is a different story. The storage manufacturers
> and vendors have been advertising the need to run backup for about 15 years
> now and ALL of them include free backup software with their external desktop
> drives. If you're not backing up your data now days, you are driving a
> Ferrari on a wet road without wearing your seatbelt and with the airbag
> turned off.
>
> THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT BACKING UP IMPORTANT DATA TODAY!
>
> So apologies if I offended the wrong people with my previous post.
>
> 73
> Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP
>
> " Well I've spent an awful lot of time trying to help some of the 0.3% of
> the
> customers who lost data on relatively new drives and were foolish enough
> (interpret that to be stupid enough) to think they did not need a backup
> copy of their important data."
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:47:07 +0000
> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Orion s-meter calibration
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>, Orion565
> <orion565@yahoogroups.com>
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>
> Does anyone know the procedure for calibrating the Orion s-meter? Are
> there hardware pots that can be adjusted?
>
> Thanks & Happy New Year,
> Barry N1EU
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:54:51 -0500
> From: Carl Moreschi <n4py2@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion s-meter calibration
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4EFF142B.9070207@earthlink.net>
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>
> It's all done in firmware. My software provides this but it's only for
> the program S meter.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 121 Little Bell Dr.
> Hays, NC 28635
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 12/31/2011 8:47 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> Does anyone know the procedure for calibrating the Orion s-meter? Are
>> there hardware pots that can be adjusted?
>>
>> Thanks& Happy New Year,
>> Barry N1EU
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 07:40:30 -0800
> From: "denton" <denton@oregontrail.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <348266600BA4436A8CEF7C1BF53704EE@D1SFW181>
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>
> I must strongly agree with Rick on data backup....
> At this qth, we clone our hard drives to an external closure on a regular
> basis. I have done this for almost 10 years now, and it has saved our necks
> more than once!!
> I also replace the hard drives in our pc's typically every year or year and
> a half....as cheap as new hard drives are, to my thinking there is simply no
> excuse not to do so.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 1:36 AM
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
>
>> PLEASE LET ME CLARIFY ONE POINT AND APOLOGIZE FOR MAYBE OFFENDING SOME
>> PEOPLE...
>>
>> When I said in my post below "stupid enough" I was ONLY referring to
>> people
>> who do not back up data on hard drives, not to people who do not keep
>> multiple copies of CDs or DVD.
>>
>> It is not a well know fact that CDs and DVDs suffer from drop out. Most
>> consumers still rely on the original STRONG marketing message that data
>> would be safe for 25 years on these media. It is unfortunate, but the
>> manufactures never came out and publically warned people, once it was
>> learned that you probably will lose data within 25 years.
>>
>> With [hard] disk drives, it is a different story. The storage
>> manufacturers
>> and vendors have been advertising the need to run backup for about 15
>> years
>> now and ALL of them include free backup software with their external
>> desktop
>> drives. If you're not backing up your data now days, you are driving a
>> Ferrari on a wet road without wearing your seatbelt and with the airbag
>> turned off.
>>
>> THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT BACKING UP IMPORTANT DATA TODAY!
>>
>> So apologies if I offended the wrong people with my previous post.
>>
>> 73
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP
>>
>> " Well I've spent an awful lot of time trying to help some of the 0.3% of
>> the
>> customers who lost data on relatively new drives and were foolish enough
>> (interpret that to be stupid enough) to think they did not need a backup
>> copy of their important data."
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:16:15 -0600
> From: Don Allen <w9cw@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4EFF354F.5040004@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> All issues of Ham Radio magazine have been available on CD for a number of
> years. You can buy the full set: 1968-1990, or individuals 1968-1976,
> 1977-1983, and 1984-1990. Both the ARRL and CQ bookstores sell them.
>
> Here's the link to the CQ bookstore CD-ROM page...
>
> http://store.cq-amateur-radio.com/Categories.bok?category=CD+Roms
>
> 73
> Don W9CW
>
>
>
>
> </Some good news: QSTs (excluding the last 3 or 4 (?) years) are available
> from the ARRL on CD. It was recently announced in the last two weeks
> that virtually every issue of 73 is available for free on PDF or Kindle.
> For CQ and Ham Radio, you may be on your own...
>
> Carter, K8VT>/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:04:16 -0800
> From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion s-meter calibration
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <012701ccc7de$3adf94a0$b09ebde0$@sonic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> That brings up another "Fix it" that should be looked at. The O II S-meter
> is extremely stingy below S-9, but way too generous above S-9. The results
> of my tests on v 2.039d are at:
>
> http://n6ie.com/Orion%20S%20meter%20descrep.htm
>
> Ron Castro
> N6IE
> www.N6IE.com
> Member:
> REDXA NCCC
> NCDXF ARRL
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Carl Moreschi
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:55 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion s-meter calibration
>
> It's all done in firmware. My software provides this but it's only for the
> program S meter.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 121 Little Bell Dr.
> Hays, NC 28635
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 12/31/2011 8:47 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> Does anyone know the procedure for calibrating the Orion s-meter? Are
>> there hardware pots that can be adjusted?
>>
>> Thanks& Happy New Year,
>> Barry N1EU
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:04:13 -0600
> From: "Steve" <steve@w5cia.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] WTB: Model 253 Auto Tuner
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <7635E4B9FE7043C995AD65360C747E60@W5CIA>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Must be clean and fully functional. Email details with shipping cost to the
> 70433.
> steve@w5cia.com
>
> Thanks
>> From the ? of the storm
> Steve
> W5CIA
> #1 DXCC Honor Roll
> Proud Member of the 599 DX Association <http://599dxa.org/>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:52:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jim WA9YSD <wa9ysd@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
> To: "TenTec .com" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
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> They are only books and magazines. ?What one man junk is another mans
> treasures.
>
> I you like them so much then no money can buy them from you.
>
> Collectors worth can only be sold to other collectors no value to any one
> else.
>
> Now save all the different magazines with different Ten-Tec adds since their
> beginning. ?Offer those to them and maybe they will give you a nice discount
> on a new radio.
> ?
> Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith.?Jim K9TF/WA9YSD
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:02:21 -0800
> From: AL7CR <al7cr@punakea.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Old QSTs, CQs, etc.
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4EFF5C3D.2010209@punakea.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Enough please! This whole discussion was OT in the first place and it
> is wearing out my delete button.
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Jim WA9YSD <mailto:wa9ysd@yahoo.com>
>> December 31, 2011 10:52 AM
>>
>>
>> They are only books and magazines. What one man junk is another mans
>> treasures.
>>
>> I you like them so much then no money can buy them from you.
>>
>> Collectors worth can only be sold to other collectors no value to any
>> one else.
>>
>> Now save all the different magazines with different Ten-Tec adds since
>> their beginning. Offer those to them and maybe they will give you a
>> nice discount on a new radio.
>>
>> Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim K9TF/WA9YSD
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:18:39 -0800
> From: AL7CR <al7cr@punakea.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion s-meter calibration
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <4EFF600F.6060004@punakea.com>
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>
> Go to the RX menu and press the 15m band select key. This will bring up
> a screen that allows you set the S meter in digital counts.
>
> AL7CR
>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Barry N1EU <mailto:barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>> December 31, 2011 5:47 AM
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know the procedure for calibrating the Orion s-meter? Are
>> there hardware pots that can be adjusted?
>>
>> Thanks & Happy New Year,
>> Barry N1EU
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