YES YES YES
THAT IS EXACTLY THE PROCEDURE I WAS REFERRING TO!
WELL SAID, GH.
While many hams use a desk mounted mic, I am a headset junkie... and use
various headsets with either open or closed earphone receivers. A
headset puts the mic in exactly the same place at all times, regardless
of whether I turn or move my head, and especially if I move about in my
big swivel desk chair. I have a summary of various headsets used with
my radios here:
http://k8jhr.com/project_links.html
[Click the headset commentary button at the bottom.]
------------------- K8JHR ------------------
On 10/11/2013 8:54 PM, GARY HUBER wrote:
I have used Audacity (audio editing software) for recording audio from
my microphones and (using Audacity) analyzing them. I first use the
microphone with a sound card or USB soundcard and play the recordings
back through my hearing aid's tele-coils via the sound card. Using the
tele-coil of the hearing aid avoids any distortion from a speaker cone,
headset diaphragm, or room resonance and I can set both recording and
play back levels of Audacity and the sound card.
After I have base line recordings of the microphones using the same
phrases, at the same amplitude, and rate. I connect the microphone to
my OMNI-VII and transmit into a dummy load. I use a FLEX-1500 to receive
with a Virtual Audio Cable connection (headset output could be coupled)
to a soundcard and Audacity recording for playback and analysis. In
this manner I can hear my own voice as others will hear it over the
air. The OMNI-VII has SSB TX BW, TX Roll Off, TX Equalizer, and Speech
Proc, in the transmit audio chain and the microphone is just beginning
as is any external audio processing or equalization.
I have become a proponent of using Audacity and the PowerSDR (on the
Flex-1500) panadapter to capture the received signals from the OMNI-VII
and microphone combination and recording it visually, graphically, and
aurally. I try to log the mic, the settings used, and date so that the
Audacity sound files and the associated graphic files are linked.
I have microphones with Heil HC-4, HC-5, & HC-6 elements, as well a
carbon and dynamic microphones. I also have a TenTec 705 mic, which
sounds great for local nets and rag-chew. The HC-4 element is best for
DXing.
YMMV
73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M
-----Original Message----- From: Richards
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:45 PM
To: rmcgraw@blomand.net ; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT Eagle mic equalization
I would follow Bob's procedure, and do it for each microphone you have,
especially using the mic you use on the other rig that pleases you.
Also, I like to make recordings with each of my microphones on a
computer sound recorder application. I play with each microphone at
different distances from the mouth, and at different input volumes, to
get a better idea of how each mic works (in general) and I find that
sometimes I need to treat different microphones differently - some like
to close talked - others not as close - and still others... OK you get
the drift. Each microphone seems to have its own sweet spot of
distance, speaking volume, speaking angle (whether straight on axis or
slightly off axis), etc. Each mic will have its own point at which it
over modulates - even at at regular speaking volume - and gets a tad
distorted. Each will have a different range for proximity effect (i.e.,
it gets more bass as you get closer, and gets more thin and treble as
you get farther away), and I like to know about each mic before I hook
it to the radio.
That is how I learn each microphone's general characteristics, and then
I try to apply that insight as I use the microphone on the rig - i.e.,
some like it close, some farther, and all with more or less mic input
gain.
In this way, you may get better results with different settings. Again,
nothing here contradicts Bob's procedure. Bob is a true audio
professional, while I am an advanced hobbyist - having been a field
tester and review commenter for microphones for the speech recognition
field. You learn a lot just playing with several hundred different
types of microphone over a span of 15 years !
ALSO - I observe that each radio has a slightly different output sound
when working with the MON-itor function. The Omni VII is very clear,
the Jupiter is just OK, and my Orion II is muddy and quiet - and the
sound on the front headphone jack differs from the sound on the rear
speaker jack, and both are different yet from the sound on the LINE-OUT
jack. Go figure... So it may be more clear than you know, because the
audio chain is different on each rig, and even different on different
places on the rig.
Thus it may be better than you think.
Just MY take.
------------------ K8JHR -------------------
On 10/11/2013 12:21 PM, Robert Mcgraw wrote:
I suggest setting the DSP MIC gain to a value between 35 to 45, speech
processor OFF and then using the mike and in your normal voice, adjust
the hardware mike gain on the side of the radio for normal ALC LED
action. Normal is an occasional flash. It should not flash on every
word. Set the SP to avalue of about mid way. This should be about
optimum for that mike. I use the hand mike on my Eagle with excellent
reports although it is a bit light on the bottom end. This works for DX
and mobile operation. To get a better overall sound, a mike such as the
709 is ideal.
73
Bob, K4TAX
Well…I got my (new to me) TT Eagle yesterday and am impressed with the
little rig…
Receive audio is very good, but I notice that when transmitting with
the
hand mic that comes with the rig, its audio is not as clear as with my
Omni 7 with 709 mic and 10 db of equalization.
Any internal tweaks in the Eagle to add clarity to my voice?
Anyone using the TT 717 mic equalizer with the Eagle?
I haven't tried my 709 mic with the Eagle yet, but will do so.
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