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Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec rigs

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec rigs
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:48:50 +0000
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The Eagle would be an awesome dxpedition radio.

73, Barry N1EU

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:
> Many DXpeditions are loaned rigs by the manufacturers; in return, the 
> manufacturer has "bragging rights" and will advertise that they are the 
> "official" radio of the DXpedition (or at least one of them).
>
> Ten Tec does not, to my knowledge, loan out equipment at the present time.
>
> And let's be honest... if you were putting together a major DXpedition, and 
> you had a choice of two radios... say, a K3 or an Omni VII... to pick for all 
> of your operating stations (possibly as many as 6 or 7 stations, double that 
> if you are running separate CW & SSB locations, triple if you're also running 
> a separate Digital location)...  All else being equal, it comes down to one 
> brandyou'd have to buy, and the other which would be loaned at no cost to 
> you... which would you pick?
>
> 73
>
> On 02/27/14, Jim Vohland wrote:
>
> I realize that compared to you guys, I'm not worthy to walk in your shadows 
> but I do read all the discussions with interest and learn much. I have owned 
> and do have TenTec products and for the most part have been pleased. I have 
> wondered however, why we never see any DXexpeditions using TenTec equipment? 
> Comments.
>
>> From: resluder@yahoo.com
>> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:39:28 -0500
>> To: wa4njy@yahoo.com; wa4njy@yahoo.com; tentec@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec 
>> rigs
>>
>> Excellent analogies.
>>
>> Eric
>> W9WLW
>>
>> On February 27, 2014 11:22:16 AM EST, Ed Purvis <wa4njy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> |The Eagle seems to be a Ferrari with roll-up windows.
>> |
>> |The OMNI VII (had one) is a Mustang with nice options.
>> |
>> |Best analogy I can muster now.
>> |
>> |Ed
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |________________________________
>> | From: R. Eric Sluder-W9WLW <resluder@yahoo.com>
>> |To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>> |Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:32 AM
>> |Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit
>> |with TenTec rigs
>> |
>> |
>> |Bry:
>> |
>> |You won't find a simpler rig to use that rates high on Rob's list for
>> |receiver performance, and that is the Eagle. It's so simple, that when
>> |I got mine I actually went through "Knob Withdrawal" in that I started
>> |second guessing if I made the right decision. You look at the radio,
>> |and it does what you want it to do, but has so few buttons or knobs
>> |that you ask yourself, "did I over pay for this box?" It just goes to
>> |show you how programmed we've become with the marketing hype in Ham
>> |Radio.
>> |
>> |The Eagle isn't for everyone, but it's a great mobile, or great home
>> |based radio if you realize, it's not designed to be a contest class
>> |radio even though the receiver is contest class grade. It's a top
>> |notch radio inside a box with simple controls for those who might use
>> |it in an RV, or mobile in a car, and for rag chewers, general ops. IMO
>> |
>> |
>> |73
>> |
>> |
>> |- R. Eric Sluder
>> |
>> |W9WLW
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> |>________________________________
>> |> From: Brian Carling <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>
>> |>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>> |>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:23 AM
>> |>Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with
>> |TenTec rigs
>> |>
>> |>
>> |>The Omni VII discussion is very informative. I need encouragement when
>> |it comes to accepting the ergonomics of most modern rigs. The FT450
>> |felt like I was burned with its horrible menu system. I actually prefer
>> |the FT857D... But anything like the TS590 is just not going to work
>> |here. The OMNI VII arrangement sounds far more practical than most menu
>> |controlled rigs.
>> |>
>> |>Best regards - Bry Carling AF4K
>> |>
>> |>
>> |>
>> |>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com> wrote:
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> On 2/26/2014 6:13 PM, R. Eric Sluder - W9WLW wrote:
>> |>>
>> |>> I see where even on the new and highly touted TS-590 you do some
>> |serious button pushing too.
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> I have a TS-590 and the Omni VII in my shack.
>> |>>
>> |>> I like both radios, but I prefer operating the
>> |>> Omni VII. It is not so much the multiple pressing
>> |>> of buttons, as the fact the display only shows
>> |>> one menu item at a time, so you either press
>> |>> several buttons to adjust several things, or you
>> |>> must work the multi knob and scroll through like
>> |>> 87 or more items sequentially to get what you want,
>> |>> which is NOT as quick and easy as looking at a
>> |>> list of 18 or 19 items at once, and quickly scrolling
>> |>> to the one you want. Remembering the menu item
>> |>> numbers on the 590 is not as easy as just looking
>> |>> at a menu list and seeing what you want among
>> |>> the rest all at once. (hard to describe...hopefully
>> |>> you get the gist. )
>> |>> menu item at a time
>> |>>
>> |>> I will send Brian a comparison piece I wrote
>> |>> that compares how stuff gets done with each
>> |>> rig and maybe that will help him judge for
>> |>> himself. It IS a valid inquiry!
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>>
>> |>>> The single tree menu in the Omni VII software is sweet.... you're
>> |not trying to go thru layers of menu settings.
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Amen. The only way to get that sort of
>> |>> convenience in setting features is to use
>> |>> the ARCP-590 software. I really like the
>> |>> Omni VII simple menu when I am in a hurry
>> |>> like during a contest or when trying to catch
>> |>> rare DX before the pile ensues, and I find
>> |>> the Omni VII menu way easier to navigate in
>> |>> a hurry like that. You have to use the ARCP
>> |>> software to get anything close to a single
>> |>> menu. The 590 has like 87 menu items
>> |>> and the Omni VII about half that number
>> |>> with 18 or 19 showing at any one time.
>> |>>
>> |>> I like both radios, but the Omni is easier to
>> |>> run, I think, than the 590.
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> The Omni VII buttons are larger, with more space
>> |>> between them. The features you change most
>> |>> encircle the main display. The concept is easy.
>> |>> You press the feature you want, and adjust it with
>> |>> the Multi Knob. That is the basic plan... select
>> |>> and adjust. If you want to adjust another feature,
>> |>> just select it by pressing its front panel button
>> |>> and adjust the value with the multi knob.
>> |>>
>> |>> Once you get onto that procedure, it all sorta works
>> |>> the same way. (OK... there might be an exception
>> |>> or two, but that is the gist of the process.)
>> |>>
>> |>>
>> |>> Just MY take.
>> |>>
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