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Re: [TenTec] How much for an Orion III?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] How much for an Orion III?
From: k6jek <k6jek@comcast.net>
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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:10:38 -0700
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I would have had nightmares for years if I'd witnessed that. I may have them 
anyway just hearing about it.


On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:

> Sure there was... Government stupidity and its insistence on wasting tax
> payers' money!
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of James
> Duffer
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 8:17 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] How much for an Orion III?
> 
> Such a sad tale.  Sorry to hear of such destruction of good and harmless
> equipment.  Harmless as there was no "just" reason for the destruction.
> Jim, wd4air
> 
>> From: Rick@DJ0IP.de
>> To: tentec@contesting.com
>> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:09:03 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] How much for an Orion III?
>> 
>> I can answer some of that, first hand.
>> 
>> In about 1973, the US Army in Europe (USAREUR) decided to close down 
>> hf and go fully to VHF and UHF.
>> Hundreds of S-Lines and KWM-2A's were collected and brought to the 
>> army disposal center in south western Germany.
>> 
>> I was custodian of a MARS station in Berlin and on TDY in the area of 
>> the disposal center, so I dropped in to see if I could scrounge 
>> anything to distribute through the MARS channels to our members.  
>> There I witnessed the beautiful Collins radios stacked by the hundreds, in
> an area of about 50 ft.
>> by 75 ft - being destroyed!
>> 
>> There were a few guys working hard destroying them.  Every tube was 
>> being broken with a hammer and the chassis of each was cut in half with a
> torch.
>> 
>> Seems they had been used by the Army Security Agency and they were 
>> afraid there might be some residual top secret data still inside some of
> the tube.
>> 
>> 
>> I did everything I could to try and stop the action but to no avail.
>> Everyone on site was just following orders and they were not willing 
>> to pause while I tried to find a solution.  All of the radios were all 
>> completely destroyed.
>> 
>> I was in tears.  I could have made every MARS member in Germany's 
>> dream come true if some moron hadn't have taken the decision to destroy
> them.
>> 
>> So that's what happened to our military S-Lines here in Europe. 
>> 
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dave 
>> Edwards
>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 6:16 PM
>> To: tentec@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] How much for an Orion III?
>> 
>> Also interesting (to think about)...
>> I wonder what percentage of them still exist today?
>> 
>> How many does the government still own?
>> 
>> How many remain on dusty shelves somewhere....unopened???
>> 
>> ....Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/14/14, 9:56 AM, Rsoifer@aol.com wrote:
>>> I asked Rod, K0DAS (retired from Rockwell Collins), how many  KWM-2s 
>>> were bought by hams rather than Uncle Sam.  He said that nobody 
>>> really knows, but his best guess is that the U.S. armed forces 
>>> bought between  1/4 and 1/3 of them.  Some went to other government 
>>> agencies as well  as foreign governments.  That still leaves quite a 
>>> few that were
>> bought by  hams like me.
>>> 
>>> 73 Ray W2RS
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