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Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

To: Duane Calvin <ac5aa@ac5aa.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
From: Wade Staggs <tvman1954@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:02:47 -0600
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*His is the Flex 1500 .... Maybe they have gotten better. The Flex-6500 is
quite expensive, next to his Flex-1500 ...... Nothing we have found in the
Flex Forums so far has helped. Other reasons, maybe he is just likes the
Omni D. We do have a DDS VFO installed on it!*

*                                                                       73
from Wade/KJ4WS*

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Duane Calvin <ac5aa1@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting - my Flex-6500 has nearly instantaneous QSK T/R turnaround.
> Really nice.  Faster than my Orion was.
>
>         73, Duane
>
> Duane Calvin, AC5AA
> Austin, Texas
> www.ac5aa.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Wade
> Staggs
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 12:34 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
>
> *A very good Friend of mine has a Flex Radio. He Brags about it Constantly.
> So why is it that every time we hear him On the Air, He is talking on an
> Omni D which he has had on loan from me for a bit over a year now? He even
> has the 100 Watt Amplifier and All the Bells and Whistles........ We have
> tried 3 different Computers from Slow to Quad Core with 4 Gig of RAM. There
> is still about a 1.5 second delay between Keying the Microphone and
> Actually Transmitting anything. The Receive has about the same Lag Time.
> Yay and Whoopie for the SDR Radios, if you want to be constantly doubling
> with other stations. I like my radio's to work in Real Time. *
>
> *                        Just my opinion and 73 from Wade/KJ4WS*
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Think you have your finger on it. What would facilitate this even more,
> > would be if those who designed s_d_r, would adhere to a few common
> > standards which would make hardware controllers of the type you indicate
> > portable and interchangeable.
> > On Oct 31, 2014 4:26 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> >
> > > IMO, the time has come to stop worrying about which "radio".
> > > It's time to abandon the concept of a radio as being the single stand
> > alone
> > > device that gets us on the air.
> > >
> > > SDR radios such as FLEX and ANAN  ARE THE FUTURE.
> > > BUT NOT as stand-alone devices.
> > > Most of us will have and use an additional "Human Interface Box".
> > >
> > > What most of us don't like about the current SDR radios is their human
> > > interface.
> > > ..We want knobs.
> > > ..Some of us want big knobs.
> > > ..Some of us want more knobs
> > > ..Some of us want fewer knobs
> > >
> > > The Eagle is a fantastic radio but we can't seem to agree on the knob
> > > arrangement for the perfect Eagle.
> > > WHY MUST WE AGREE ON JUST ONE SOLUTION?
> > > What if we could have a dozen different solutions to the knob
> > arrangement,
> > > but they all control a black box called "Son of Eagle"?
> > >
> > > CONSIDER THIS:
> > >
> > > In the future there will be multiple companies offering various Human
> > > Interfaces.
> > > Our choice of human interface will be just as important as our choice
> of
> > > SDR
> > > radio that goes behind it.
> > >
> > > Before I continue, let me explain what I have in mind.
> > > I'm thinking of things like the Wood Box interface such as their
> TMate2.
> > > See:  http://www.woodboxradio.com/tmate2.html
> > >
> > > My first impression of the TMate2:  "Nice but too expensive."
> > > But is it really too expensive?
> > > It is exactly the knobs that this device has which I like so much in my
> > > radios.
> > >
> > > Considering its price, the performance of the FLEX 6300 is phenomenal.
> > > But who wants a radio with no knobs?  I certainly don't.
> > >
> > > In the future, that performance level will be available for $1K or even
> > > less.
> > > Couple that with a $300 human interface and we'll have a lovely radio
> at
> > a
> > > reasonable price.
> > >
> > > Each of us can choose which human interface we want, with as many knobs
> > as
> > > we want, and the radio behind it is a black box engine.  We can swap
> the
> > > SDR
> > > black box engine as often as we want, but keeping our own favorite
> human
> > > interface.  Each new radio will have the same look and feel as the old
> > one.
> > > No new steep learning curve.
> > >
> > > Upgrading to newer technology will be cheaper because we don't replace
> > > everything.
> > > We just purchase a new engine.
> > >
> > > I believe this will be the ham radio of the future.
> > >
> > > This approach will enable each of us to create a radio environment that
> > > suits our own personal tastes.
> > >
> > > Even though I was one of the ones yelling loudest that real radios have
> > > knobs, I'm ready to jump ship as soon as they build solutions like
> this.
> > >
> > > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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