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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 159, Issue 27
From: Katz Ajamas <ajamas.rn@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 01:58:27 +0000
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SOTA.

To my mind one needs TWO SOTA radios. One 5W-2-W, 40-6, up to 6lb or so,for
the easy, < 6 mile RT day hike with a YL carrying the lunch and water and
me carrying 20lb of radio, battery, and antenna stuff. Then there is
another radio, 2-3 band, maybe 3lb max  for radio, battery, antenna, the
whole station, for the > 6mile RT hike, sans YL sherpa, so packing own
lunch and water. I've done both hikes, the YL is only good for 7 miles :-),
a number of times, but have yet to bring a radio along. The PFR-3B looks
like the best bet for the later. Esp considering it has a built in tuner.
The Argonaut 509 is good for former. Alas, I sold mine to help pay for a
Drake R7. I got a lot of use out of the R7 but now it just sits.

73, -Bon ah7i/w4

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> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:41:24 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
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> Cops on bikes:  September 1975 - On my first DX-pedition to Andora
> (C31IL), I was about 10 minutes into the Spanish Pyrenees mountains riding
> fast (I thought) on a Honda 750 when two cops on motorbikes (BMWs) came up
> behind me out of nowhere.  Pulled me over of course but as it turned out
> then only wanted to look at my bike and then show me they could ride
> faster.  When we left together, they vanished in nothing flat!
>
> On THAT DX-pedition we ran a Swan SS-100 (50w) off of a car battery. The
> other op brought the VW bus and the Swan.  I built the antennas on site
> (wire beams, of course).  I was amazed how long we could work off of the
> car battery with this new transistorized radio.  Up till then I had only
> used tube rigs.
>
> I returned to Berlin and 2 months later, bought my Argonaut 505.  I wanted
> to try out these new transistorized radios.  THEN THE REAL FUN BEGAN.
>
> See: http://www.dj0ip.de/my-expeditions/andorra-1975/
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:09 PM
> To: rick@dj0ip.de; 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
>
> Nice set-up Rick and not just any bike but a great BMW. My dream bike when
> I was a young-un in Holland. The highway patrol cops had them?, together
> with pure White "Porsches" roaming the Dutch "Autobahn" at brake neck
> speeds. Two cops in the car with White leather coats, fur collars, White
> Helmets and the roof folded back. No getting away from them hi.... hi.
> 73, Tony VE3DWI, ex PA0MIH.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
>   Original Message
> From: rick@dj0ip.de
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 04:43
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
>
> Nice. What year was that photo taken?
>
> I bought the 505, then modified the SSB Gen board, replacing the 4
> crystals filter with an XF9-B 8 pole SSB filter, which at that time was the
> best SSB filter you could buy (for 9 MHz).
>
> Then I bought a new 509, but migrated the SSB Gen board from the 505 to the
> 509 because of the filter.
> Then I built an audio filter and mounted it inside the radio.
> Finally I added a 6-pole 500 Hz Xtal filter (from Yaesu).
>
> Kept it for 20 years and was all over Europe with it, on mountain tops and
> sandy or rocky beaches.
> One of my favorite portable locations was the Isle of Man.
> See: http://www.dj0ip.de/my-expeditions/isle-of-mann-1992/
>
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:05 AM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
>
>
> Rick,
>
>
> The 509 was a fun radio. I bought one new when my friends were buying the
> TS-520 and 101E.
>
> http://www.ke4ke.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Yosemite2.jpg
>
> I ran it at Yosemite with out the amp.
>
>
> Tim
> KE4KE
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 08:28:44 +0100
> > From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> > To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
> > Message-ID: <000801d1801e$a465e350$ed31a9f0$@de>
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> >
> > BRING BACK THE 509!
> >
> > With the dial lamps switched off, it drew only 160 mA on receive.
> > There was a slide switch on the back panel for switching the lamps on
> > or off.
> >
> > I added a mod to my Omni (A - analog) that did this.
> > It drew only 350 mA on receive.
> > A 24 hour contest (CW) was just doable off of a motorcycle battery.
> > Always had to push-start the bike afterwards.
> >
> > If you are doing long term battery operation, this makes a huge
> > improvement in battery life.
> > I ran my Omni off of batteries for 10 days while on a DX-pedition.
> > Ran it at 50w power with the dial lamps switched off.
> >
> > Many of today's "cool" radios such as the ELAD FDM-DUO are real
> > Current Hogs and draw an amp or more on receive.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> >
> >
> > Annan, etc.
> >
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:32:24 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
> Message-ID: <56EC1F88.2040204@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> This is the best source (quality, low price) I know of in the US. I
> bought a 20Ah 12V battery. They sell batteries in many sizes and shapes
> to fit lots of existing products.
>
> https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries
>
> W6GJB bought a similar battery from this company and was happy.
>
> http://www.batteryspace.com/128vlifepo4batterypacks.aspx
>
> One of my friends on the list noted that he wouldn't carry a high
> capacity battery up a trail for two hours of operation. I take the
> opposite view -- I wouldn't take ANYTHING up a trail for only two hours
> on the air! :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On Thu,3/17/2016 7:09 PM, Bwana Bob wrote:
> > Yes, I was browsing on a VK SOTA site and he recommended this battery:
> >
> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__22656__ZIPPY_Flightmax_8400mAh_4S2P_30C_LiFePo4_Pack_AUS_Warehouse_.html
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:41:24 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
> Message-ID: <56EC21A4.9090402@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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> On Fri,3/18/2016 1:48 AM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
> > The battery charger cost me as much as the battery,
>
> Yes, a specially controlled charger is needed, but it does NOT need to
> cost as much as the battery. A 12.8V 12Ah battery (the capacity Rick
> bought) weighs 3.5# and costs $125 from Bioenno Power, and the charger
> costs $11.
>
> Like almost any battery type, cost depends on the VAh, but bigger
> batteries cost less per Ah than smaller ones. A 12.8V 6Ah battery from
> the same company weighs 1.75# and costs $80.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:45:41 +0100
> From: "rick@dj0ip.de" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> To: <k9yc@arrl.net>,    "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
>         <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
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> That's about what I paid for my battery. ($125)
> The charger was about half the price of the battery.
> It also depends on the charging capacity of the battery.
> I wanted one that would charge my battery quickly.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 4:41 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
>
> On Fri,3/18/2016 1:48 AM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
> > The battery charger cost me as much as the battery,
>
> Yes, a specially controlled charger is needed, but it does NOT need to cost
> as much as the battery. A 12.8V 12Ah battery (the capacity Rick
> bought) weighs 3.5# and costs $125 from Bioenno Power, and the charger
> costs
> $11.
>
> Like almost any battery type, cost depends on the VAh, but bigger batteries
> cost less per Ah than smaller ones. A 12.8V 6Ah battery from the same
> company weighs 1.75# and costs $80.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:56:16 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] SOTA RADIO
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> Yes. These are relatively slow chargers -- 2A for the 12A battery, 4A
> for my 20Ah battery.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>   On Fri,3/18/2016 8:45 AM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
> > That's about what I paid for my battery. ($125)
> > The charger was about half the price of the battery.
> > It also depends on the charging capacity of the battery.
> > I wanted one that would charge my battery quickly.
>
>
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