Yes, but FLEX MARKETING $$$ put that technology on the map.
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:23 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
FWIW, the ANAN/OpenHPSDR direct sampling radios were out before the Flex
6000 series of direct sampling radios.
Barry N1EU
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete
> the heterodyning technology.
>
> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is
> just as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
>
> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand. They spent bundles of
> bucks on marketing. Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them,
> albeit with a more open approach to software.
>
> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now
> the talk of the town.
>
> BUT NO KNOBS? YUK!
>
> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
>
> BINGO!
>
> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet. I don't think
> anyone expects it to be that, at its attractive low price. It just
> has to be good enough and for most people it is.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Moreschi
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>
> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than
> anything else right now.
>
> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that
> are not clear to me.
>
> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of
> the art. The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
> diminishing.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
> > Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
> excellence? I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG
> to replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood. It has an excellent
> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've
> never looked back or regretted my decision. The 7300 is a great rig,
> but why not give the 590SG some praise also?
> >
> > Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle. I have one
> > and
> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
> performance and power output. I think it does an outstanding job. I
> also have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use
> strictly for cw and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy
> with it.
> >
> > I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or
> > Argonaut
> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
> >
> > Just my two cents worth.
> >
> > Scott K4VWK
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
> >> To: "tentec@contesting.com"<tentec@contesting.com>
> >> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf@yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> >>
> >> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit. Thats a stoudt price point when
> comparing to an Icom 7300.
> >> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
> >> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead,
> >> Labor
> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit. Probably
> optimistic numbers.
> >>
> >> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour,
> >> you are
> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run. What
> can be engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding? Certainly not
> something which is far afield from existing products.
> >> This is my point, is it better to somehow take this down time,
> >> take
> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick
> R&D effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a
> radio with limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to
> make something for next year.
> >> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters,
> >> Amplifiers,
> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products
> will sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
> >>
> >> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an
> >> Eagle
> purchase. I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought
> by customers.
> >> N5TF,Terry
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