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Re: [TenTec] receiver isolation

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] receiver isolation
From: Ken Brown <kenradiobrown@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 21:16:31 -1000
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It all depends on the coupling between the antennas. I should really say
antenna systems, because there could be crosstalk between transmission
lines or other equipment, and not just the coupling from transmit antenna
to receive antenna. The "receiver Guard"recommendation is a good one. If
the receive antenna is far from the transmit antenna, and an inefficient
one such as a Beverage, and your feedlines have good shielding and are not
all bundled together. Cross polarization between the transmit antenna and
receive antenna is another way to reduce coupling, or if you prefer to
increase isolation.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> I use the DX Engineering Receiver Guard for jut this purpose. I have K9AY
> receive loops about 60-70 ft from my F12 Sigma 80 OCF vertical dipole. So
> far, everything has been fine.
>
> Kim N5OP
>
> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as
> the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
>
> > On Dec 6, 2017, at 14:11, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I interpreted the question to mean that he is transmitting legal limit
> into
> > his tx antenna, he has a receive antenna feeding the subreceiver through
> > the rx antenna jack on the rear, and he wants to know if he needs to add
> > external isolation/protection of the rx antenna during transmit.
> >
> > It's a good question that's come up before but I confess to not
> > knowing/remembering the authoritative answer.  Conventional wisdom is to
> > add external isolation/protection.
> >
> > 73, Barry N1EU
> >
> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Ken Brown <kenradiobrown@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There should never be "legal limit" power level on any transceiver
> antenna
> >> port. The maximum power level should be the transceiver's transmit
> power,
> >> and it should only be on the tx/rx port when transmitting. The internal
> >> switching in the transceiver will keep that transmit power out of the
> >> receiver front end. There should never be any RF power other than
> receive
> >> signal levels from the antenna feeding into any antenna port on a
> >> transceiver.
> >>
> >> Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question. How/why would you ever have
> >> legal limit RF power going IN to your transceiver?
> >>
> >> DE N6KB
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Sandor Wetsel <kg4fet@bellsouth.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I have blown front ends on radios before so for me this is a concern.
> Is
> >>> the isolation of the Sub receiver good enough to protect it from a
> legal
> >>> limit transmission on the Main? This would be using either antenna port
> >> for
> >>> the SUB RX antenna. I did not want to assume now that I am into this
> >> (565)
> >>> rig a week now.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks es Merry Cristmas
> >>>
> >>> Sandor KG4FET
> >>>
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