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Re: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs

To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs
From: Greg S via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 20:51:06 -0400
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Couple ranger bands (donuts cut from bicycle inner tubes). Dress it up with a 
broccoli band over the top. I like the pink ones for a splash of color.
Greg, KC8HXO 

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> On Aug 8, 2018, at 20:43, Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Well said, gentlemen,
> 
> I work in the defense electronics industry and we run into parts obsolescence 
> issues all the time.  Usually its a chip that goes obsolete.  Sometimes there 
> is a substitute part available. Sometime a redesign is possible.  Some 
> manufacturers give notice when a part is going obsolete and they offer a 
> last-time buy opportunity.  With pressures on price and profitability that 
> all companies face, spare parts inventories are usually pretty thin.
> 
> If you can find a parts rig, great. Another way to stay on the air is to have 
> an older rig as a backup.  My Heath HW-100 and Ten Tec Corsair use mostly 
> common parts that are reasonably easy to find. Having said that, good luck if 
> the frequency counter chip in your Corsair fails.
> 
> And, yes, a $10,000 radio may not be such a good investment if the processor 
> or DSP chip dies obsolete in 5 years.
> 
> In the meantime, I'm trying to think of a substitute for the VFO knob rubber 
> tire on my Paragon that I can find in a hardware or auto parts store!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Bob WB2VUF
> 
>> On 8/8/2018 12:43 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> As an additional point to support, based on the legal department for my 
>> previous employer, there is no statute or law in the US which requires a 
>> company to supply support or parts past the original warranty period.
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw@blomand.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> In many cases, the original supplier of the parts has discontinued specific 
>>> items.  The new ownership has little to nothing to do with this fact.  Some 
>>> parts were custom made for Tentec while some were made in their own tool 
>>> and die shop or injection molding facility.  Those of course no longer 
>>> exist. Unless someone builds after market items, many parts for older 
>>> radios {those 10 + years} simply won't be available.
>>> 
>>> This also is the same for many other brands as well.  I've encountered this 
>>> fact with my attempted repair of Kenwood, ICOM and Yaesu products and is 
>>> one of the reasons I've stopped repairing radios.  No parts available in 
>>> many cases.   In other instances, the supplier has a minimum of 100 piece 
>>> order.  If I have to order 100 pieces just to get one or two, this makes 
>>> the repair very expensive.  Certainly is not profitable for me.
>>> 
>>> Folks, we must realize that anything older than the Omni VII {now 10+ years 
>>> old}, Eagle {now 8+ years old}  and Argonaut VI {now 6+ years old}  are, in 
>>> many instances, in trouble with regard to parts.    With my former company, 
>>> having been in charge of repair parts for products that are no longer in 
>>> production, we did forecast and purchase inventory to support products for 
>>> 7 years. In most cases the supplier or vendor informed us that this was the 
>>> last production run on these items.   This is inventory that takes space on 
>>> the shelves, and must be paid for in advance.  Hence we have to spend 
>>> dollars for parts that may set on the shelf for 7+ years.   The accountants 
>>> do not like this and the facility manager may say "why do we need to use 
>>> this space for obsolete parts"? And in many instances our "forecast" was 
>>> not sufficiently accurate and we simply ran out of parts before expected.  
>>> In some cases we were forced to limit purchase quantities to prevent 
>>> hoarding.
>>> 
>>> With Tentec and other brands, just be thankful you can get any service work 
>>> done and parts being available.   Yea yea yea I know you're saying your 30 
>>> year old radio still works and I can get it repaired.   In general that is 
>>> correct.........until one of those unique parts fail.     The Orion series 
>>> has several unique parts and many to most of the PC board assemblies are no 
>>> long available.    If either fails, look for a "parts only radio" and hope 
>>> the part is good that you need.
>>> 
>>> This is no different than looking for a brake controller for anti-lock 
>>> brakes from a junker at the auto junk yard.  Oh, the Dealer has them for 
>>> $650.   That's 1/2 the value of the vehicle.    Radios are much the same 
>>> way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8/8/2018 10:18 AM, David J. Ross wrote:
>>>> Sorry to hear that. I bought the parts for my Paragon just last Nov.  I 
>>>> had heard that service parts were drying up under the new ownership.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TenTec <tentec-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of km4bsham via 
>>>> TenTec
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 11:10 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Cc: km4bsham <km4bsham@aol.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs
>>>> 
>>>> Naturally "out of stock,  try back at a later date ". Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>> -------- Original message --------From: "David J. Ross" 
>>>> <rossdj@verizon.net> Date: 8/7/18  6:32 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 'Discussion of 
>>>> Ten-Tec Equipment' <tentec@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion VFO 
>>>> Knobs I purchased one directly from TenTec but there was a $25 minimum 
>>>> order. I needed the plastic panel end ears so the ring was a price padder.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TenTec <tentec-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dave Beghtel via 
>>>> TenTec
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:04 PM
>>>> To: TenTec@contesting.com
>>>> Cc: km4bsham@aol.com
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any source for the newer vfo knobs with the solid rubber ring?
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