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Re: [TenTec] Lubricating Orion II Heat Sink Fan

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lubricating Orion II Heat Sink Fan
From: Michael Tortorella via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: w2iy@verizon.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 10:36:12 -0400
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I can't help inserting 2 cents here.  The fan manufacturers make tens of
millions, maybe hundreds of millions of these, and they are not going to add
even a penny of cost to each one if they can possibly avoid it.  And they
can avoid it by not putting in a zerk fitting that would, among other
things, ruin their replacement business.  In a way, it's perverse and an
abuse of Earth's finite resources, but that is the way we seem to have
chosen to organize our economy.  This probably bears more rational thought
and discussion but I'll leave it here for now.
73, Mike W2IY

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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kim Elmore
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 7:47 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Cc: Bernie Skoch
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lubricating Orion II Heat Sink Fan

Ah! Yes. Like Zirk fittings on all the things that ought to have them! 

Honestly, this is the first time I've been unable to get oil into a muffin
fan by simply lifting the labels. 

Kim N5OP

"People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as the
music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith

> On Jul 14, 2019, at 9:34 PM, Bernie Skoch via TenTec
<tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh I wasn't criticizing you at all.  I would have (and have done) the very
same thing.  It's just a shame a thing like a muffin fan doesn't have a
built in lubrication nipple.
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 20:39, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps it's a commentary on our society. But in this case it may be that
our time is worth more than our gadgets. I guess there was a time when our
devices were more precious than the time it took us to fix them. Nowadays,
it's our time that's most precious. Which is why I decided fixing the fan
was costing more than I was willing to pay...
>> 
>> Kim N5OP
>> 
>> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long as
the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Bernie Skoch via TenTec
<tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Kim.  I'm glad you got it fixed.
>>> 
>>> You tried!  But what a sad commentary on our disposable society.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Bernie 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 16:35, Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Although lots of time has passed, I wanted to let everyone know that I
had no luck lubricating the old PA muffin fan on my Orion II. I tried
everything everyone suggested and it simply got worse. It squealed quite
loudly in the end.
>>>> 
>>>> These are 60 mm x 25 mm x 60 mm muffin fans and common as dirt. I had
three in my one of my parts boxes, so I slapped in an old one and -- Lo! And
behold! -- it was quiet. This one turns in the opposite direction, but that
doesn't matter. I looked it up and, not only does it have ball bearings, but
it moves even more air (27 cfm vs 25 cfm) and uses less current (0.14 A
instead of 0.23 A). If yours wakes you up with a surprising squeal, get
anything of the stated size with ball bearings and replace the old one! It's
not worth your time to keep trying to resurrect the original one.
>>>> 
>>>> Kim N5OP
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/13/2019 2:01 PM, Stuart Rohre wrote:
>>>>> Kim had a great suggestion, which eases the application of new
lubricant to heat sink fans.?? Tilt the radio such that the central fan
bearing is pointing UP, before you heat up the fan to suck in new lubricant
on the cool down step.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Fans at Mouser are so good and reasonably priced, that getting a
new fan overnight is a most time saving step. Match the overall dimensions
with the old fan.?? The new fans have a ball bearing model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have done the fan rejuvenation a number of times but last few
timees, I bouight new fans, and also rejuvenated the old one. That way, I
have plenty of spares for future use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stuart Rohre
>>>>> K5KVH
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>>>> -- 
>>>> 
>>>> Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, PP
SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
>>>> 
>>>> /"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
practice, there is." //??? Attributed to many people; it???s so true that it
doesn???t matter who said it./
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