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Re: [TenTec] ? Electric fence noise

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] ? Electric fence noise
From: Bob McGraw <rmcgraw@blomand.net>
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Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 10:17:57 -0500
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Well I don't see that as being "the way it is".   Yes the FCC has been operating with greatly reduced staff and available facilities.  They aren't allowed in their building due to current COVID restrictions.    Yet, if you will read QST or other reports, some hams have received notice of violation for deliberate interference, excessive bandwidth, failure to properly ID and such.

Noise issues do require a lot of investigation and gathering of data.   Usually it is initially up to the operator to either gather the information or at least enlist assistance in gathering the data.  Then contact the offending party.  Usually this has proven to be successful.

Power companies have been operating with reduced staff's for various reasons.  Some have resorted to contracting out services for right-of-way maintenance.  This causes limbs to remain rubbing against lines and poles.   As long as the "lights are on" the power company doesn't receive complaints.   I find they do act on complaints as long as the complainant  has shown good faith in the matter and is just not calling and complaining.   Thus the efforts one receives is mostly related to the effort given to the issue. Just sitting back and complaining has not been productive.   In fact it is usually counter productive.

So what have you done to improve your situation?    Nothing? Then that's the results you've received.

I have a farm in our area that moves his fence to graze different areas of his pastures.  In some locations I get noise, while in others, no noise.  I contacted him about it, explained my observations and asked to be allowed to walk the fence.   I found weeds against the wire in several places.  I returned with my string trimmer, eliminated the weeds and the noise was gone.   So a bit of professionalism, a bit of work on my part and my location is now noise free.  As to the farmer, it required no effort on his part and he was happy to know the issues was resolved.  A few weeks later he came back to me asking if I could assist with his off-air TV antenna?   Yes, I did and when finished he was impressed.   I was then rewarded with a couple of really nice sirloin steaks.   Nothing like good grass fed beef.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 5/4/2021 9:48 AM, Rodney Dewald via TenTec wrote:
Today the FCC does nothing they give it to the ARRL and all they do is call the farm 
and the farmer says there is nothing wrong with his fence and that’s it.  And I 
heard the FCC is now charging 35.00 for renew of license.

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From: CARTER GRABARCZYK
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:55 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ? Electric fence noise

  I chased RFI for a living at AT&T. It seems you are looking at this issue 
from the wrong side. In my experience, most cases of electric fence noise was 
caused by defective insulators or corroded connections and thus the responsibility 
of the fence owner to repair. Most were cooperative as it was probably noising up 
their radio, TV and phone service.

For those that did not cooperate, it was pointed out that they were violating 
Part 15 of the FCC rules and may ultimately have to deal with the FCC.
Just my 2 cents...
Carter   K8VT

     On Monday, May 3, 2021, 10:11:13 PM EDT, Rodney Dewald via TenTec 
<tentec@contesting.com> wrote:
WHERE DID YOU PUT THE CHOKE      I HAVE LATTER LINE TO A 4TO 1 BALEM

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From: Ralph Matheny
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:14 PM
To: ah7i@gatech.edu; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] ? Electric fence noise

I use electric fence here to keep deer out
of my tomato patch.  To keep the fence out of
the radio I have a choke...3 turns well insulated
wire on a good sized #31 toroid, and I can't tell
the thing is on or off with the radio.

Your results may vary...every fence and charge will
probably be different.

de K8RYU




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Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 6:35 PM
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Subject: ? [TenTec] Electric fence noise

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An electric fence charger may be modified for a longer rise time. Like
softening keying to eliminate clicks.
73, -Bob ah7i em73ts
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