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Topband: 160M Short Verticals

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Subject: Topband: 160M Short Verticals
From: john.w1fv@telocity.com (John Kaufmann)
Date: 30 Aug 2001 09:08:51 -0700
On Thu, 30 August 2001, "Tom Rauch" wrote:


> The only improvement occurs when multiple drops are so far apart 
> zone currents at the base do not overlap each other, which means 
> each ground system has to be smaller than optimum. 

Basically I agree: there is only improvement with the multiple in-phase 
verticals when the original ground system *is* smaller than optimum.  That was 
implied in the original premise about losses starting out large compared to the 
radiation resistance.  In fact, as I noted before, there is little to be gained 
if the losses had started out low, which means the ground system had to have 
been near optimum to begin with.  Thus I don't think there is a technical 
contradiction here.  The issue is whether there are any practical situations 
where there would be a benefit.  An extreme example would be a vertical with 
just a ground rod as a ground system.

Also, I realized my original statement about reduced benefit at larger spacing 
is not quite correct.  A little analysis shows that the gain can be realized at 
larger spacings IF the high loss conditions described above were true.



> One case where this would help is when a driveway would be in the 
> middle of an area, and you couldn't cross the driveway with radials. 

This is one possible scenario.


> 
> This is an advantage for you because you already have a system 
> for 80, and can make that system act like a SINGLE vertical the 
> same height would behave if placed in the exact middle of your 
> array with the same physical area of ground system. That would be 
> better than feeding only one element at the edge of the ground 
> system. 

This is another scenario which may be of interest if an existing short vertical 
array was already in place.

73, John W1FV



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