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Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: info on radials repartition...

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Topband: info on radials repartition...
From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:15:39 -0700
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Nulls are created by cancellation of signals that very nearly 
equal and very nearly 180 degrees out of phase at the point of 
observation. For the null to be 20 dB deep, the field strength of 
the two signals must be within 10% of each other, which is only 
0.9 dB. Thus, very small changes in one element of a directional 
array can make large changes in the field strength in null 
directions. 

Adding the radials to only one antenna could easily increase the 
field strength of that tower by 0.5 dB. That would significantly 
reduce the depth of one null and increase the depth of the other 
one, and/or shift their azimuth and/or elevation. 

Another way of thinking about this is to realize that two signals 
of equal strength can add by only 6 dB (precisely in phase), but 
they could, in very well controlled systems, cancel to -infinity 
(precisely equal and precisely 180 degrees out of phase). 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC

--Original Message Text---
From: W8AV@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:57:46 EDT

Jim:

I really do not thing that adding addition radials on the null area of the 
pattern should not make that 
much of a difference in the null area either.  I agree that nulls are 
important, that's why I have an 80 
meter array.  :-)However, if you take a field strength meter out in the field 
and measure the nulls of the 
pattern before lengthening the radials and then again after you lengthen them, 
I doubt that you will see a 
lot of change in the radiated field.  


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